The Militarization of Policing in America

The Militarization of Policing in America

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    The Militarization of Policing in America

    American neighborhoods are increasingly being policed by cops armed with the weapons and tactics of war. Federal funding in the billions of dollars has allowed state and local police departments to gain access to weapons and tactics created for overseas combat theaters and yet very little is known about exactly how many police departments have military weapons and training, how militarized the police have become, and how extensively federal money is incentivizing this trend.
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    Heck they're just getting ready for the collapse that's just around the corner.
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    And?
    A weapon is a tool. The geography related to its development is irrelevant. That just tells us where people were working when they identified a solution to a problem.

    The taser cuffs are just the logical follow on to the taser belt that has been around for years.

    The department that got the M113 with a M-2? Nothing new there. Maryland national capital park and planning commission (bi,county agency in D.C. suburbs) has had one for their police for thirty years.
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    There is No Law stating private citizens cannot own surplus military vehicles like APC's and TANKS. Collectors abound world wide that collect vintage WWII aircraft, artillery, tanks and the like.
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    Perhaps the LEOs should revert back to pocket .32 cal pistols and call boxes on the street corners? Tactics and weapons evolve and the LEOs need to at least keep up if not stay ahead.
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    I for one don't understand the point of this thread.

    Why, pray tell, would anyone want our men and women in blue, to be less prepared and equipped than their potential adversary? If your local police department uses that Bearcat Tactical vehicle to rescue your children or grandchildren, you'll be glad they had the foresight to buy it. Tactical teams with snipers (yes Snipers) are necessary in the world we live in.

    I applaud the law enforcement community for taking the initiative to use every tool available to them, to serve and protect, and also to safeguard the sheepdogs that are brave enough to wear that badge. It ain't for the money, that's for sure.

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    ...a lot of local PDs get more money than they know what to do with...so they buy new toys...waaaaaaaaaaay back in the 70s, they bought us new GE walkie-talkies, Xerox printer thingys in the car(which were obsolete the next year and had to be thrown out), and new Model 66s...spend it or lose it is the name of the game...speaking about my local PD, I want them to have all the firepower they can get...we're on the southern edge of big D...and get a lot of drippings...

    ...there were rumors back then that a plan was in place to federalize local forces...I never thought about it enough to check it out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Perhaps the LEOs should revert back to pocket .32 cal pistols and call boxes on the street corners? Tactics and weapons evolve and the LEOs need to at least keep up if not stay ahead.
    Of course not. My problem isn't so much the equipment or the tactics it's the fact that there are people who actually believe that the government is "here to help" and that's the justification for turning a blind eye.
    The government usually starts problems (politicians) or cleans them up afterward (police), rarely getting in the middle of them. To me, it's a lot of make work, just like paying people to dig holes and fill them back in, only not as obvious.
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    ...there will always be that kind of person...from the pre-revolution days till now...you basically have two camps...one thinks that the gooberment's benevolent and will take good care of us and supply all our needs...one that knows it's made up of greedy, power-hungry men of low character and high charisma who want to rule us and suck us dry...and want them to just leave us alone to live the American life...(there are a few making transition from one camp to the other...but not that many)...

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    Of course not. My problem isn't so much the equipment or the tactics it's the fact that there are people who actually believe that the government is "here to help" and that's the justification for turning a blind eye.
    The government usually starts problems (politicians) or cleans them up afterward (police), rarely getting in the middle of them. To me, it's a lot of make work, just like paying people to dig holes and fill them back in, only not as obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snub44 View Post
    ...a lot of local PDs get more money than they know what to do with...so they buy new toys...waaaaaaaaaaay back in the 70s, they bought us new GE walkie-talkies, Xerox printer thingys in the car(which were obsolete the next year and had to be thrown out), and new Model 66s...spend it or lose it is the name of the game...speaking about my local PD, I want them to have all the firepower they can get...we're on the southern edge of big D...and get a lot of drippings...

    ...there were rumors back then that a plan was in place to federalize local forces...I never thought about it enough to check it out...
    Back in the day you could buy a used agency vehicle and know that it had been maintained properly. Now they just run them until warranty is up then get a grant from uncle and buy a new one. Auctions have become sort of pot luck now.
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    DHS is becoming more & more like the military.
    Why would they need these?

    Obama DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks to Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullet Stockpile | The Gateway Pundit
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    Our Sheriff dept. recently got Thermal viewing optics thanks to a Federal grant. I for one, can see using them when rolling quietly up to a domestic out in the boonies (which is everywhere around here), and using it to scan for heat sources hiding in the bushes/darkness, waiting to ambush us, since they know that if we show up, most likely, somebody (them) is going to jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet1234 View Post
    Well besides the fact that they are not light armored tanks and there is no 1.6 billion bullet stockpile, I will answer the question.

    DHS patrols the borders. Along one of our borders we have drug cartels moving quantities of drugs and illigal immigrants. Working for those cartels are former Mexican special forces soldiers. These cartels are armed with typical battlefield weapons up to and including rocket propelled grenades.
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    Our police dept doesnt pay squat.We can't keep any good ones and i don't blame them.Some of them on the force now,couldn't find a convict in walmart.
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