Big Sis (DHS) Refuses To Answer Congress On 1.6B Bullet Purchases

Big Sis (DHS) Refuses To Answer Congress On 1.6B Bullet Purchases

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    Big Sis (DHS) Refuses To Answer Congress On 1.6B Bullet Purchases

    Big Sis Refuses To Answer Congress On Bullet Purchases

    DHS staying mum as members probe for explanations

    Steve Watson, Infowars.com, Mar 21, 2013

    Speaking at CPAC with Infowars and We Are Change reporter, Luke Rudkowski, Congressman Timothy Huelscamp revealed this week that the Department of Homeland Security has refused to answer questions from “multiple” members of Congress regarding its recent purchase of huge amounts of weapons and ammunition.

    “They have no answer for that question. They refuse to answer to answer that.” Huelscamp said.

    “I’ve got a list of various questions of agencies about multiple things. Far from being the most transparent administration in the world, they are the most closed and opaque.” The Congressman added.

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    Haven't seen anything on the rep's House web site, unless I missed it.
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    From a fiscal accountability standpoint they should be held accountable for such large expenditures in the face of budget and spending cuts.
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    ...Infowars...

    The Onion and Duffel Blog have more credibility.

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    Interesting indeed. But looking at the ammo situation lately and how fast it's been disappearing off the shelves nationwide, they still have some catching up to do.
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    “They have no answer for that question. They refuse to answer that.”

    IF...in fact it is true that they have no plausible, logical, answer to the question or refuse to answer the question then (by their silence) they HAVE answered the question.

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    What is going on with these government agencies that they are allowed to refuse to answer questions from Congress?
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    ^^ Arrogance ^^

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    I hate to say it guys, but i did some research on this and this is what I found, I also posted it in the previous post on the MRAPS and the 1.6 billion rounds here (post 77): DHS Bullets, Drones & Tanks - Oh My

    Okay, I try to learn something every day...

    Here's what I found... bolding is mine

    Table 2: Small Caliber Requirements, Fiscal Years 2000 to 2005:

    In millions of rounds.

    Type: 5.56mm;
    FY 2000: 626.2;
    FY 2001: 575.6;
    FY 2002: 689;
    FY 2003: 929;
    FY 2004: 1,181;
    FY 2005: 1,353.

    Type: 7.62mm;
    FY 2000: 47.2;
    FY 2001: 50.7;
    FY 2002: 92.2;
    FY 2003: 136.3;
    FY 2004: 313;
    FY 2005: 282.

    Type: .50-caliber;
    FY 2000: 20.4;
    FY 2001: 15.7;
    FY 2002: 22.6;
    FY 2003: 41.8;
    FY 2004: 67;
    FY 2005: 74.

    Type: 9mm;
    FY 2000: 39.6;
    FY 2001: 133.7;
    FY 2002: 104.2;
    FY 2003: 146.4;
    FY 2004: 75;
    FY 2005: 81.

    Total;
    FY 2000: 733.4;
    FY 2001: 775.7;
    FY 2002: 908;
    FY 2003: 1,253.5;
    FY 2004: 1,636;
    FY 2005: 1,790.

    Source: PEO for Ammunition data, GAO analysis.
    Notes:

    In Fiscal year 2005 1.353 BILLION rounds of 5.56 ammo alone was used by DOD. 5.56 rounds are used in the M-16.
    TOTAL of all small caliber rounds used 1.79 BILLION in one year.




    Source: Government Accounting Office.

    Link to document: GAO-05-687, Defense Ammunition: DOD Meeting Small and Medium Caliber Ammunition Needs, but Additional Actions Are Necessary

    Now the only question that remains is why they need so many MRAPS?
    And now, with "everything on the table" vis a vis Israel and Iran... we could very well be going to war.... REAL, DECLARED WAR against IRAN, at the behest of our ally Israel.
    Rats!
    It could be worse!
    I suppose

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    From another article on the topic:

    If the DHS can’t handle being under the supervision of Congress, it should be defunded without an apology to the administration or to the mainstream media. Such matters are extremely serious and fall outside the realm of partisan bickering.
    I couldn't agree more.
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    I still don`t trust ANY of them. I think this is all about the Great Obama Gun Grab. But it`s still under the radar. We`ll see.

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    Also from Forbes
    Op/Ed 3/11/2013 @ 8:00AM
    1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation

    1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation - Forbes

    The real issue is to have a National Conversation about the Militarization of DHS and the countries police forces.
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    I doubt it has little to do with the proposed gun legislation but more with impending civil war if things w=really get bad. As I've stated previously, I believe DHS is the future national police force making all others subservient to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USM1976 View Post
    I doubt it has little to do with the proposed gun legislation but more with impending civil war if things w=really get bad. As I've stated previously, I believe DHS is the future national police force making all others subservient to it.


    I believe the proper title is Gestapo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USM1976 View Post
    I doubt it has little to do with the proposed gun legislation but more with impending civil war if things w=really get bad. As I've stated previously, I believe DHS is the future national police force making all others subservient to it.
    Congress'll need to show me the element in the Constitution that specifically authorizes this, domestically. Standing armies, 'n' all.

    We'd be far, far better off with the ol' "Think globally, buy locally" approach, in this respect. Halve the "fiscal gravy train" going to the feds and re-route half of it to the counties and states. That will be a start. Lacking that, though, I suspect you might well be correct.
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