Homeland Security Demands “Obedience” in Message to Agents

Homeland Security Demands “Obedience” in Message to Agents

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    Homeland Security Demands “Obedience” in Message to Agents

    Homeland Security Demands “Obedience” in Message to Agents
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    Written by Alex Newman, Thursday, 28 March 2013

    My Comments: I cannot remember how many times I have take the 'Oath'. I have never untaken the same 'Oath'. Amen. For those of you LEO and FEDS, be aware that we will not support you when you cross that little line. You live amungst us and we know who you are. You shoud, or might want to questinon you masters.

    .....The word “obedience” was defined on the official TV screens as: “quickly and cheerfully carrying out the direction of those who are responsible for me.”


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    You should be careful about throwing threats around. That is one article. You obviously do not know anything about the people you speak thusly of.

    The majority of LEO's at every level are loyal AMERICANS. Every time I took the Oath it was the same, I don't know what you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40Bob View Post
    You should be careful about throwing threats around. That is one article. You obviously do not know anything about the people you speak thusly of.

    The majority of LEO's at every level are loyal AMERICANS.
    I very much appreciate your input. No Threats Intended. Word! It is what it is! Did you take an oath? Did you mean it when you took it? Or did you just worry about your pay check?

    I was mearly just stating an opinion, not a threat. You are implying that there is a threat. You can deal with that. I do not have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    Appreciate you input. No Threats Intended. Word! It is what it is! Did you take an oath? Did you mean it when you took it? Or did you just worry about your pay check?
    I am retired, and yes I meant it.

    For those of you LEO and FEDS, be aware that we will not support you when you cross that little line. You live amungst us and we know who you are.
    That, to me sounds like a threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40Bob View Post
    I am retired, and yes I meant it.



    That, to me sounds like a threat.
    I respect your 'opinion' sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    I respect your 'opinion' sir.
    Don't call me that..... I work for a living.
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    right back at ya!

    Best to you. No Disrespect intended in the above posts!

    Edit add: I was only trying to point out that if 'you' cross that line, 'you' are no longer legitimite. Word! And after 'you' cross that line, you will be subjected to the same 'un-special' rules that us other law abiding Citizens need to navigate to stay out of jail.

    It is what it is. The Hippies of the 60's run our Executive Branch now......

    To quote Rodney King - 'Cant we all just get along'. Yeah, he is a great spokseman for the Progressive Left.
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    Since I was accuse of offering a threat, which I did not........... I was offering factual based obersvations.

    Either you follow the Constitution, or you do not. Granted there are a lot of views here. If you are LEO or a Fed, you need to question your masters.


    That was my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    Since I was accuse of offering a threat, which I did not........... I was offering factual based obersvations.

    Either you follow the Constitution, or you do not. Granted there are a lot of views here. If you are LEO or a Fed, you need to question your masters.


    That was my point.
    I didn't see any threats anywhere... some people are just a bit oversensitive sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40Bob View Post
    You should be careful about throwing threats around. That is one article. You obviously do not know anything about the people you speak thusly of.

    The majority of LEO's at every level are loyal AMERICANS. Every time I took the Oath it was the same, I don't know what you are talking about.
    Your generation of LEO took that oath serious. However, the newer generation will be obedient to there master. We both know that they are easily mislead.

    As for the threat, IMO I think that all government employees should be held to the fire. Thats what I took away from it...
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    What about when the new Constitution comes up on the agenda, for me there is no new Constitution I stand by the old one and this old dog does not need new tricks but I have seen so many over the past few years turn there backs because they dont have time to stay informed. I have talked to a lot of my old LEO friends and we agree that if they want our pensions the can have them, the ones I know say what I say I will not bow down even though I use a cane most of the time. It seems we have the foreign enemies and traitors at hand. God Bless America is where I stand and there are a bunch of us old guys shoulder to shoulder that will hold our heads high. Sorry about the soap box this is just a old man venting thanks for the space
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    The danger here is not what the OP posted ( I would have expressed myself differently but I think I understand what he is saying. ). The danger lies with the entity demanding obedience. The questions that come to my mind are "Obedience to what?" or "Obedience or what?". I have an uneasy feeling that obedience to the Constitution or to the laws of the land is not what is being demanded. I believe that obedience to absolute authority is the intent. To me that implies a preference for officers who are willing to fore-go any differentiation between right or wrong; and just follow orders. That should be enough to alarm anyone.
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    I think you will find that any employer wants cheerful and rapid responses to directions. That would be what they pay you do. You take the mans money, you do the job the way he wants. This may be a be a non issue.

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