Arrested and charged with "rudely displaying a rifle"?

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    Arrested and charged with "rudely displaying a rifle"?

    It just keeps getting crazier and crazier:

    "A decorated war veteran on a Boy Scout hike with his 15-year-old son was arrested alongside a Texas country road after a police officer accused him of “rudely displaying” a firearm.

    Army Master Sgt. C.J. Grisham told Fox News he was illegally disarmed by members of the Temple Police Dept. – even though he held the proper permits to carry his weapons."


    War Veteran Arrested for ?Rudely Displaying? Rifle | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes
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    "Rudely display" a rifle. Or, walking along in cougar country carrying a rifle, in which the rifle happened to be one of the "evil black" ones and fair game because of it.

    Charges were dropped, but then he's charged with interfering with LE. Sounds like BS, proof the original claims weren't justifiable.

    But then, we weren't there and didn't see whatever it is the LE/witnesses claimed to have seen.
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    This is going to get very interesting and costly for Tempe Police.

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    So much for Texas looking out for our rights lol

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    So, heh heh... it would have been fine if he'd just been displaying a rifle, as long as the police didn't think he was doing so rudely?
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    Won't comment until I see the entire video. The guy seems to be some sort of gun rights activist and similar videos are all over YouTube. From what I saw: there was clear rights violations but we saw only what the presenter wanted us to see and the video from the officers may show a very different encounter.
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    "Rudely" is such a vague and subjective term that I doubt it would hold up to any constitutional challenge.
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    Jean Louise, What permits?

    If outside Temple city limits, there are some interesting critters in the fields and woods. Carrying might be a fairly prudent thing.
    If inside Temple limits, who knows what local rules they might have, and if any apply to their so called extraterritorial jurisdiction which extends out 5 miles from the city boundaries.


    Will be interesting to see what this really is all about and the outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    Jean Louise, What permits?
    Don't know, just quoting from the article.
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    ...what's this about jurisdiction 5 miles out??? can you cite this law??? never heard of it before...

    ...searching Temple ordinances...haven't found any "rudely displaying" law...I think a lawyer's gonna have a ball with this one...

    ...the handling of the son and telling him he wasn't getting out of the squad car till he answered some questions...may be a whole nother issue...
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    Jean Louise, What permits?

    If outside Temple city limits, there are some interesting critters in the fields and woods. Carrying might be a fairly prudent thing.
    If inside Temple limits, who knows what local rules they might have, and if any apply to their so called extraterritorial jurisdiction which extends out 5 miles from the city boundaries.


    Will be interesting to see what this really is all about and the outcome.
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    I am looking into my 'crystal ball', and I see the Temple Police Department being made to 'rudely' display (and hand over) lots of CASH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snub44 View Post
    ...what's this about jurisdiction 5 miles out??? can you cite this law??? never heard of it before...

    ...searching Temple ordinances...haven't found any "rudely displaying" law...I think a lawyer's gonna have a ball with this one...
    In Ga there are "reciprocal agreements" that allow LEO to step in when they see an issue and there is no jurisdictional LEO available. I'm sure that there is a similar provision in most jurisdictions. While this is on the far end of the spectrum as far as Officer behavior goes; in Ga all they would have to do is say that a person was in the city limits and they were searching for them when they saw the suspicious person outside the city limits. There would be no question as to jusrisdiction.

    Same as a multi-jurisdictional chase: involved officers would continue into other jurisdictions with the cooperation of the jurisdictional law enforcement until they arrived at the scene.

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    ...that's called close pursuit...that I'm familiar with...


    ...what I don't understand, is, if he was outside the city limits to begin with, what jurisdiction do city officers may have to answer "calls"...
    ...and the "charge" of rudely displaying seems to be bogus...still searching...
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    Sorry, I lived there and the cops do anything they want with a bold big TEXAS screw you attitude. I'm watching this cop unholster the 45 and lift it over the man's head and shoulders sweeping him. This is exactly why I don't trust someone with 10 hours a year of training to unholster and handle my gun when he can't even handle one safely. By the way how can you rudely display an AR-15 when it's clearly hanging around the neck on a sling? You also hear one cop clearly say just having the gun means you are dangerous. Just listened to the cops very closely, they are clearly wrong in what I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    "Rudely" is such a vague and subjective term that I doubt it would hold up to any constitutional challenge.
    And I'd highly doubt "rude" display is what's in the statutes. More like, Criminal Menacing (which requires deliberate action/intent to intimidate). Unless they're capable of providing substantive details for justifying such a claim, this smells like a power-hungry MWAG shake-down.
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