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    New in court security and was wondering if anyone has a policy on court security officers that are certified LE officers, in uniform, carrying in the court rooms? Just came from patrol and can't let it go!!!

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    I'm cool with it. In Va. I think a Judge can decide if the bailiffs can carry or not. Most here do.

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    An unarmed security officer is just a person wearing a uniform.
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    In the early 1990s I worked private security at the local Federal Courthouse House and was armed in uniform. I did entrance security so people would have to pass through my check point before going anywhere else in the building. The actual court security was handled by the U.S. Marshal Service. They had armed court security in coat and tie. They worked for a private company contracted to the USMS, all of them were retired local police officers or deputy sheriffs.

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    Court security where I live are provided by the sheriff's dept and are armed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetfuelrm View Post
    Court security where I live are provided by the sheriff's dept and are armed.
    same here

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    Are you saying that you transferred from Patrol to Court Security and they don't allow you to be armed?Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard,I'm guessing some liberal Judge feels that if there aren't any guns then there won't be any violence
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    Where I used to be from... Uniformed Court Officers who were sworn peace officers provided security within the courtrooms, and the bulding. After people got nervous they hired contract security to run the metal detector, and x-ray... but not armed.

    Where I'm from now the Sheriff provides bailif's for court room security, and bulding patrol, and armed front door. But a private contractor provides staff to run the magnetometer, and wand, and the x-ray. So one armed Deputy/bailif, and four unarmed contract security. Thats in Palm Beach county. Broward has plenty of deputies, and bailifs doing security in the court house, and private contractors running the metal detector, wand, and x-ray... with an armed supervisor.

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    The USMS IS the security in Federal courthouses here in Lexington Ky. The District and Circuit court is handled strictly by the Sheriff.

    Hell, even the judges, Prosecutors, and half the attorneys are packing heat.

    I can't imagine doing business any other way.
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    I work in the Federal Building. All CSO's are contractors to the USMS. They are armed and are retired LEOs. They provide door and in the building, including courtrooms, security. There is always one in the courtroom when court is in session, civil or criminal. If there is a person who is in Marshal's custody, they are brought into the courtroom by the Marshals and at least two Marshals stay in the courtroom. The CSO is there too, regardless.

    Don't know about State court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lionround View Post
    I work in the Federal Building. All CSO's are contractors to the USMS. They are armed and are retired LEOs. They provide door and in the building, including courtrooms, security. There is always one in the courtroom when court is in session, civil or criminal. If there is a person who is in Marshal's custody, they are brought into the courtroom by the Marshals and at least two Marshals stay in the courtroom. The CSO is there too, regardless.

    Don't know about State court.
    You are exactly right. The USMS also hire and use sworn personel both active and retired to transport and stay with inmates in hospitals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetfuelrm View Post
    Court security where I live are provided by the sheriff's dept and are armed.
    Same here in PA.

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    When I worked for Ada county standing order was you are a deputy 24/7 and if you were caught with no weapon on your day off you lost 2 days off, but that was the old days
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    I contract out to the USMS and I am armed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40Bob View Post
    I contract out to the USMS and I am armed.
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