New Department of Defense Rule Allows Military to Override Local Authorities

New Department of Defense Rule Allows Military to Override Local Authorities

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    New Department of Defense Rule Allows Military to Override Local Authorities

    “By making a few subtle changes to a regulation in the U.S. Code titled “Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies” the military has quietly granted itself the ability to police the streets without obtaining prior local or state consent, upending a precedent that has been in place for more than two centuries.
    If this doesn't raise up the hair on back of your neck, then nothing will.

    New Department of Defense Rule Allows Military to Override Local Authorities - | Intellihub.com

    Read it and weep, and then wonder why the news media isn't giving this one any attention.
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    Interesting that this should change after local Police authorities nationwide have stated they will refuse to comply with stricter firearm regulations...
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    I don't think this would concern me as much as the growth of certian federal agencies.
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    Kinda makes you wonder if Benghazi, IRS-gate, AP-gate, F&F and the rest are the left hand of the magician that we are supposed to watch while the right hand does the truly heinous work. TSIGO.
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    It appears that POTUS now has the latitude to interpret any situation he wishes to engage the military against citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    It appears that POTUS now has the latitude to interpret any situation he wishes to engage the military against citizens.
    There was a reason for Article 1, Section 8, #12. We ignore it at our own peril.
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    From what I have read at this article and elsewhere, this isn't anything new. From the article:

    A defense official who declined to be named takes a different view of the rule, claiming, “The authorization has been around over 100 years; it’s not a new authority. It’s been there but it hasn’t been exercised.
    What worries me more is the ability of military to operate on US soil AND:

    filed suit over the inclusion of a bill in the NDAA 2012 that, according to the plaintiffs, expanded executive authority over domestic affairs by unilaterally granting the executive branch to indefinitely detain U.S. citizens without due process. The case has garnered international attention and invited vigorous defense from the Obama Administration. Even Afran goes so far as to say this current rule change is, “another NDAA. It’s even worse, to be honest.”
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    I wouldnt trust the Obama administration as far as I could spit.
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    I'm not an attorney, but this new rule would seem to violate the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 (despite the statement in the original link that it is "all but dead"). If nothing else it would seem that Congress would have to approve this to make it a valid exception to the law before it could be used. Very interesting indeed.

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    The article should've id'd the section where the change took place. Any other info on this?

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    Latest alert from the WH press room . . . "Incoming!" It's like watching a horse-drawn steam fire engine trying to put out a forest fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevew View Post
    I don't think this would concern me as much as the growth of certain federal agencies.
    Growth in number of agents or just in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    It appears that POTUS now has the latitude to interpret any situation he wishes to engage the military against citizens.
    Just find a place from which to make "prior authorization impossible"?

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    Ask yourself why the rules have changed all of a sudden.

    Personally, I don't want a Muslim interpreting anything for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Ask yourself why the rules have changed all of a sudden.

    Personally, I don't want a Muslim interpreting anything for me.
    Personally, I don't want someone of any faith interpreting anything for me
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    And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”

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    What is the saying? "Fascinating if true..?"
    Nice wordy story but they leave out three key ingredients.
    1) They refer to a regulation changing the United States code. No where do they specify which section by title and section.
    2) They never say who it was that allegedly changed this regulation.
    3) They never say when anyone claims that the military would ever have the authority to change federal laws which is exactly what they say was done here.

    If anyone can tell me the specific section of 10 U.S.C. 18 that was changed to allow what they are claiming I would love to read it.
    Unless someone can point to some verifiable facts I think the story is just literary fertilizer.
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