Navy scraps car stickers to thwart crime and terrorism

Navy scraps car stickers to thwart crime and terrorism

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    Navy scraps car stickers to thwart crime and terrorism

    Navy to scrap requirement for decals on windshields | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com
    Soon it will be much more difficult to spot a sailor or military spouse on the highways of Hampton Roads.

    Beginning next month, the Navy will no longer require service members to display vehicle decals to get on base.

    The change isn't expected to affect base security and will save the service about $750,000 a year, officials said. Guards will still check ID cards of all drivers.

    The windshield stickers were mandated years ago to ensure that vehicles entering military bases meet various safety, emissions and insurance standards in states where the cars are registered.

    As state safety requirements have become more uniform in recent years, the Navy said the stickers have become an unneeded security liability. The Army and Air Force have done away with the decals.

    In a frequently asked question page explaining the policy change, the Navy said the stickers are easily counterfeited and could turn service members' vehicles into potential targets.

    The service is encouraging sailors to remove the stickers as soon as the policy goes into effect to ensure they "blend in better" with the general population and to prevent them from "being singled out for any criminal or terrorist attack."

    Another note from the FAQ page: Gate sentries who are active-duty service members will still be required to salute commissioned officers - traffic permitting.
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    Wonder if they would get better results if they announced that all Seals, Marine Expeditionary Forces, and Security Personel now go armed while off duty?
    Kind of like play "3 Card Monte" except you have to pick the one NOT packin' an M9 or Sig.......
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    They neglected to mention that the stickers don't last very long and they didn't want to keep paying for replacement stickers. Now if they'd just convince the troops to stop plastering Unit shields, etc. all over the cars they might actually blend in. Ever since 2001 when bases went to 100% ID checks, the stickers have been useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    They neglected to mention that the stickers don't last very long and they didn't want to keep paying for replacement stickers. Now if they'd just convince the troops to stop plastering Unit shields, etc. all over the cars they might actually blend in. Ever since 2001 when bases went to 100% ID checks, the stickers have been useless.
    I've been wondering for a long time why they don't just do a simple 3 point check at the gates...

    State registration...check
    state inspection...check
    I.D...check

    up here it would be as simple as looking at the license plate, inspection sticker on the windshield, and then an I.D. Check, wouldnt slow down the gates at all..

    never really understood the Decals....especially since they expire annually.
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    1. It's not up to the guard at the gate to determine if your state registration is right or wrong and you may have borrowed/rented the vehicle.
    2. Not all state's have inspections and, again, the guards job is security, not to be concerned if your tail light is out.
    3. There you go, military/gov't ID pass on thru, those without get diverted to the visitors gate.
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    Wow, they finally caught up with the Army. Ft. Meade (my closest post) did this months ago, and went to 100% ID card check.
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    the AF did this several years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    1. It's not up to the guard at the gate to determine if your state registration is right or wrong and you may have borrowed/rented the vehicle.
    2. Not all state's have inspections and, again, the guards job is security, not to be concerned if your tail light is out.
    3. There you go, military/gov't ID pass on thru, those without get diverted to the visitors gate.
    well maybe not at bases, but in the case of the Naval Shipyard they are concerned about all of those things because they are required to enforce Maine State law when it comes to motor vehicles...

    but I do get your point.

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    The Air Force did this in 2008. As everyone was already checking ID's, the stickers have become redundant. I'd like to see a return to the decals. Makes life easier for everyone, and I'm not convinced there's a threat that necessitates 100% ID checks at the gates. Even when they went to ID checks in Europe in the 80s following the car bombing of servicemen in Germany, all the CONUS bases remained relatively opened. If I recall, the bombings in Germany in the 70's and 80's were on open facilities. Maybe someone can better inform me there.

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    At one base I was stationed at it would have been better to have no decal, if you were pulled over by the local PD the first thing they checked was for the presence of a decal. If you were military the PD would find some violation to write a ticket for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Ever since 2001 when bases went to 100% ID checks, the stickers have been useless.
    Unsurprising, though, that 10+ years of continued $750K/yr waste occurred. How easy to cease the waste, by ceasing production of the stickers.
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    About time... I found it annoying to come to the gate and get turned back because my windshield sticker was expired. Had I driven in a rental, I show the rental papers and could get in... so stupid... no common sense...

    Think about it. I had a valid Active Duty ID but my car did not so I get turned back...

    Hope they keep this no windshield stickers up...

    Now if they would only allow on base carry...
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    It was as much or more a cost-cutting effort as it is a 'security' effort.
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