Need some law enforcement advice

Need some law enforcement advice

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    Need some law enforcement advice

    I know there are some law enforcement on this forum. I have a sticky situation I need some advice on. As I describe this, it will seem like a simple problem, but it gets a little more complicated.

    My best friend is single and lives in apartment by himself. A couple of months ago he called me up and told me that he met this girl and she was asking for a place to stay. He's a bit of a push-over and allowed her to stay there. The next day it became obvious she was a drug user. He was pretty uncomfortable with this as he has never been around drugs and much like me, has a squeaky-clean criminal record. Still, he felt sorry for her and thought maybe he could help her overcome this problem. Well, as you can imagine that has not worked out. She does not pay any rent, has no job (other than apparently going out at night and prostituting herself), and spends most of her time intoxicated. he has caught drug dealers over at his apartment. She spends half the day in a comatose state and when she awakes she accuses him of stealing her money and drugs because she doesn't remember buying the drugs and gets into a fight with him. For some reason that I can't fathom, he continues to feed her and buy her cigarettes which is costing him hundreds of dollars per month.

    So I talked with him last night and he was telling me he was desperate to get rid of her. I couldn't understand why he hadn't just kicked her out. So he explained his dilemma. Apparently she has nowhere to go. She has been kicked out of every place she's ever lived and nobody will take her (hence the reason she ended up there in the first place) And since she's getting a free ride she isn't about to give it up. He has apparently tried to kick her out on several occasions and she won't leave. He has threatened to call the police, but she threatens back and says that he is required to give her 30 days notice. But worse, she also says that if he calls the police she will lie to them and tell them that he is also using drugs and that there are drugs stashed all over his apartment so he will be implicated as well. He doesn't want to tarnish his record or get put in jail and risk losing his job, etc.

    So I have made him an offer. My wife and daughter are going out of town for a week starting tomorrow to visit some family. I have offered for him to come stay with me for a few days and said I would go deal with getting her out of his apartment. Since he is quite a pushover and doesn't stand up for himself very well, I believe I would be more effective at getting rid of her. I'm not sure yet if he is going to agree to it. But assuming he does I wanted some advice as to what to expect, especially if I have to get the police involved. My thinking was I'd go over there the first day and wait for her to emerge from her comatose state, then tell her she has 3 days to leave. I would then go back on the 3rd day and see if she is gone. I would expect her to still be there so at that point I'd probably need to call the police.

    Most likely I would be armed (I'm always armed) and obviously have a Texas CHL. But that really should be irreverent being that I'm authorized by the property owner to be there (and be armed). But again, when police show up I don't know how that will look. So please give some advice on this situation.
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    Where are you guys in Texas?
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    First off have the police there. Second your friend needs to be there when the police ask her to leave. Last advice stay out of it. Don't go near it.
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    Grab her by the neck an throw her out an all her stuff
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    This is acutally a bit more of a pain than you might think it is. Once he allowed her to "move in", she is now a tenant of his even though she is not paying rent. This means that to get rid of her, she will have to be evicted, the police will do nothing until then. http://http://www.rentlaw.com/evicti...aseviction.htm As for the "threats", he needs to keep a recorder on as much as possible, TX is a one party consent state so he is the only one that needs to know he is recording.

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    So, you're going to throw yourself headfirst into this situation based on just second hand information you have received from your friend? Golly Gee Beaver!!
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    You have no authority to tell her anything. You should not get involved or you may end up in jail.

    If I were him I would call the police, explain the situation and her threat to try to implicate him in drug use/dealing. Then get them arrest her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy8 View Post
    Grab her by the neck an throw her out an all her stuff
    Now that's old school.....!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    This is acutally a bit more of a pain than you might think it is. Once he allowed her to "move in", she is now a tenant of his even though she is not paying rent. This means that to get rid of her, she will have to be evicted, the police will do nothing until then. http://http://www.rentlaw.com/evicti...aseviction.htm As for the "threats", he needs to keep a recorder on as much as possible, TX is a one party consent state so he is the only one that needs to know he is recording.
    ^ This is something to pay attention to. It will vary state to state. In SC, I need a court order from a judge, then notice is posted on the front door for 10 days, then a LEO will accompany me to kick them to the curb. So not only do I lose the rental income, I'm out additional attorney and court fees, as well as my time. Then they get to trash the place before they disappear.

    There are professional squatters out there, who do nothing but live rent-free until they are booted to their next victim.

    Why is it that so many of our laws are designed to protect the criminal and punish the innocent?
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    Thanks guys.. This has been most helpful. I've learned some things I did not know. We're going to get together tonight at my place and form a plan of action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    Why is it that so many of our laws are designed to protect the criminal and punish the innocent?
    Because the "criminals" and the ones who believe in entitlement vote more than the ones out working their butts off?
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    She has to leave sometime. When she does, change the locks, throw her stuff to the curb and be done with it.
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    I'm with Harry, she's a guest, not a tenant.

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    depending on state law, it may be considered her residence after a certain amount of time has passed. His best bet is to get a layer and let him or her handle the situation. You getting involved has no legal weight, and will only cause you problems. As far her lying to the cops, that is the last thing I would worry about. Let her lie... so what. She prob is well known to the cops anyway. He was a fool for letting her stay their to begin with. i am not saying you should not be his friend, but heir is legally nothing you can do, so you are best remaining as uninvolved as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adric22 View Post
    Thanks guys.. This has been most helpful. I've learned some things I did not know. We're going to get together tonight at my place and form a plan of action.
    You asked, so here is the plan. Stay completely away from this woman. Have your friend obtain legitimate legal advice. Do not involve yourself or your family in any way in this situation.
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