Another Fast and Furious Gun used to kill a Police Chief

Another Fast and Furious Gun used to kill a Police Chief

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    Another Fast and Furious Gun used to kill a Police Chief

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    Another example of our "Federal" government doing harm!


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    Has any good came out of F&F? Not that it makes things like this and the other killings acceptable, I'm just curious.
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    I'm going to be quiet on this one. Don't want infraction points.

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    Holder and Obama have blood on their hands, again.
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    Hopefully, Mexico will indict Holder and seek extradition. Would be interesting.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    Hopefully, Mexico will indict Holder and seek extradition. Would be interesting.....
    Holder will just tell them to suck eggs, just like he told Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onacoma View Post
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    Another example of our "Federal" government doing harm!
    Direct link to article: Police Chief Killed with Rifle Lost in ATF Gun-Tracking Program @ LATimes.com.

    July 5, 2013, 12:45 p.m.

    WASHINGTON—A high-powered rifle lost in the ATF’s Fast and Furious controversy was used to kill a Mexican police chief in the state of Jalisco earlier this year, according to internal Department of Justice records, suggesting that weapons from the failed gun-tracking operation have now made it into the hands of violent drug cartels deep inside Mexico.

    Luis Lucio Rosales Astorga, the police chief in the city of Hostotipaquillo, was shot to death Jan. 29 when gunmen intercepted his patrol car and opened fire. Also killed was one of his bodyguards. His wife and a second bodyguard were wounded.

    Local authorities said eight suspects in their 20s and 30s were arrested after police seized them nearby with a cache of weapons — rifles, grenades, handguns, helmets, bulletproof vests, uniforms and special communications equipment. The area is a hot zone for rival drug gangs, with members of three cartels fighting over turf in the region.


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    The current administration is so hell bent on making guns and gun owners look bad that they implement a program like F&F without thinking of the other likely outcomes. That type of thinking and planning is the kind of stupidity that criminals exhibit (and a contributing factor to why many of them get caught). More and more senseless killing and violence - all just to make a point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cn262 View Post
    The current administration is so hell bent on making guns and gun owners look bad that they implement a program like F&F without thinking of the other likely outcomes. That type of thinking and planning is the kind of stupidity that criminals exhibit (and a contributing factor to why many of them get caught). More and more senseless killing and violence - all just to make a point.
    Agreed. It appears as if they completely disregarded the most likely outcomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blitzburgh View Post
    Agreed. It appears as if they completely disregarded the most likely outcomes.
    Even worse, IMO, they disregarded all possible outcomes other than the one desired outcome: "proof" that guns were bad, by showing whose hands they could get into. Well, they are getting proof of that, in spades. Talk about horrible mission planning. Plan to discredit the American "gun" culture, but instead shoot yourselves squarely between the eyes. Dumb x2.

    F&F ... Fast and Furious? We should rename it to Farcical and Felonious. More apt, by a long shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    Hopefully, Mexico will indict Holder and seek extradition. Would be interesting.....
    HA! As much as I would love to see it happen, there's just no way the US government can allow it. In fact there's no way the Mexican government would even pursue it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxytwo View Post
    Holder and Obama have blood on their hands, again.
    So what else is new?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 91wm6 View Post
    HA! As much as I would love to see it happen, there's just no way the US government can allow it. In fact there's no way the Mexican government would even pursue it...
    Sure...but who besides me would LOVE to see him rot in a Mexican Jail?
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    I'm not so sure they overlooked any outcomes. It appears that the program is working exactly as they planned it to, with one tiny exception. A reporter found out about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NONAME762 View Post
    Sure...but who besides me would LOVE to see him rot in a Mexican Jail?
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