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    Just happen to come across the webpage for the Texas State Guard. I was under the impression that it was the Texas National Guard but further reading I realized they are not the same but still affiliated. Are there any members of this forum who are members of this organization or know someone who is? Are these guy's considored soldiers or are they glorified crossing guards?
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    There are a few states that have these set up by state charter or as a constitutional aspect. Basically I know that in Tennessee they are not part of the National Guard, but instead, fill in and assist the NG in certain situations. I am most familar with them during the Operation Desert Storm years when certain NG units were being mobilized in support of the war. They basically came in and watched over the armory while the individual units were deployed. Their support roles can expand to other aspects depending upon the governor of that state.
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    I read that they are comprised of mostly retired military and civies who were unfit for Federal military service. Of coarse that was just the opinion of some guy annonimously posting on the internet. Looks like they get minimal weapons training and are practically never armed. Doesnt sound too high speed. LOL

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    The demographics of the State Guard units in Tennessee are generally comprised of military retirees and "others", according to one State Guard "Officer" that I spoke with about 7 or 8 years ago. And from what I was told you are correct in that they are not "high-speed-low-drag" types! Still, I guess for some ole' soldier who wants an excuse to get out of the house once a month (or whenever they meet) I guess it gives them the opportunity to tell war-stories!
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    I know a couple of guys in security and communications.
    Think of them as National Guard Light.

    There are no p.t. minimum standards (but might be for certain units) and they do not have heavy weapons. The guys I know do a lot of their monthly training at Ellington field. The big thing is that they can not be pressed into federal service. This is sort of the private military force of the governor. If the governor were to deploy National Guard units to secure the border, the president could federalize them and redeploy them to Afghanistan if he chose to. Not so the State Guard. They can tell the president to get bent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    I read that they are comprised of mostly retired military and civies who were unfit for Federal military service. Of coarse that was just the opinion of some guy annonimously posting on the internet. Looks like they get minimal weapons training and are practically never armed. Doesnt sound too high speed. LOL
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    Virginia has their version of it, VDF (Virginia Defense Force).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennydale View Post
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    This is the group I took my Basic & CHL course from. REad down the list of names and BIOS. Special attention to the name JOSEPH TAYLOR Read his bio. He has the rank of SgtMajor from the US Army (This is not a MISS CONGENIALITY title, it is EARNED) Oh I forgot he is a COMBAT MEDIC with the Texas Guard.... If you ever meet him you tell him you think he is just a MALL COP !


    I never called anyone a MALL COP. I was asking for opinions of the State Guard from forum members. The only other info I could pull up online was that the SG was an old boys and fat teenager club. It would be encouraging to here different. I would be interested in a group that actually trained with real weapons and did something besides dissaster relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    I never called anyone a MALL COP. I was asking for opinions of the State Guard from forum members. The only other info I could pull up online was that the SG was an old boys and fat teenager club. It would be encouraging to here different. I would be interested in a group that actually trained with real weapons and did something besides dissaster relief.
    Disaster relief is unfortunately where people are needed. Invasion by aliens, armed foreign military or zombies just isn't high on the reality scale so it's not truly worried about. I don't know much about the Texas SG but I'm pretty sure that they do not do any weapons training. They're a civilian response force that the state governor can call up for situations that can be dealt with by civilians. If you are looking for something to volunteer for that includes weapons training, then I don't believe that's it.
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    ...it's always easier to mock and denigrate those who step up and serve...than to step up and serve...


    ...remember this thread when your town's hit with a tornado, and they show up to help...
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    I never called anyone a MALL COP. I was asking for opinions of the State Guard from forum members. The only other info I could pull up online was that the SG was an old boys and fat teenager club. It would be encouraging to here different. I would be interested in a group that actually trained with real weapons and did something besides dissaster relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snub44 View Post
    ...it's always easier to mock and denigrate those who step up and serve...than to step up and serve...


    ...remember this thread when your town's hit with a tornado, and they show up to help...

    I think your taking me the wrong way. I am not mocking the organization. I am only stating what I have been able to find online. I find it admirable that folks volunteer. I was looking for more opinions from people who are actually part of the SG or know someone who is. I'm afraid I missed my opportunity to serve federally or NG. I was looking for an organization to possibly join that is not unorganized militia. And no I'm not knocking militia groups.

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    ...no, I'm just reading what you wrote in your posts...I doubt you would have talked all that trash if you ran into one in the barber shop...even if he was old and fat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    I think your taking me the wrong way. I am not mocking the organization. I am only stating what I have been able to find online. I find it admirable that folks volunteer. I was looking for more opinions from people who are actually part of the SG or know someone who is. I'm afraid I missed my opportunity to serve federally or NG. I was looking for an organization to possibly join that is not unorganized militia. And no I'm not knocking militia groups.
    I think you are getting 'taken the wrong way' because of the statements you've made. You asked if they were soldiers or "glorified crossing guards". Plus you've alluded to the notion that disaster relief is apparently not enough excitement to entice you to consider it. So before you try to defend what you are trying to determine, you really should go back and read what you've written, because while I agree, you haven't called them "mall cops", you've done a pretty good job of minimizing the volunteer efforts that they do support...

    Honestly if you've missed your opportunity to join the Armed Forces, or the National Guard, then you need to come to terms with the fact that if you want to play with guns, you'll have to pay for it yourself. The state and Federal governments have plenty of much younger people to actually invest money into for that sort of training. There will always be a need for good people to volunteer their time and effort for disaster relief at the state and local level. If you are interested in giving some of your time away to help people, then the State Guard is absolutely worth looking into. If that time commitment is too great, then there are still county efforts like CERT, that will allow you to be called up on a local level for events that take place close to home. If you are just looking to play with guns on someone else's dime, then I think you are probably out of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX expat View Post
    I think you are getting 'taken the wrong way' because of the statements you've made. You asked if they were soldiers or "glorified crossing guards". Plus you've alluded to the notion that disaster relief is apparently not enough excitement to entice you to consider it. So before you try to defend what you are trying to determine, you really should go back and read what you've written, because while I agree, you haven't called them "mall cops", you've done a pretty good job of minimizing the volunteer efforts that they do support...

    Honestly if you've missed your opportunity to join the Armed Forces, or the National Guard, then you need to come to terms with the fact that if you want to play with guns, you'll have to pay for it yourself. The state and Federal governments have plenty of much younger people to actually invest money into for that sort of training. There will always be a need for good people to volunteer their time and effort for disaster relief at the state and local level. If you are interested in giving some of your time away to help people, then the State Guard is absolutely worth looking into. If that time commitment is too great, then there are still county efforts like CERT, that will allow you to be called up on a local level for events that take place close to home. If you are just looking to play with guns on someone else's dime, then I think you are probably out of luck.

    I can see where I might have come off as condensending. For that I appologize to anyone I offended. I do have a desire to volunteer but I want to be sure there is actual training and people dont just show up for drill and shoot the breeze. Like I said I was looking for info from people who actually know about the SG and not just stating opinions. The "opinions" I stated earlier in the thread are not my own, just comments I have read on other forums. As far as wanting to play with guns? Heck who doesnt? Isnt that why most of us are here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    I can see where I might have come off as condensending. For that I appologize to anyone I offended. I do have a desire to volunteer but I want to be sure there is actual training and people dont just show up for drill and shoot the breeze. Like I said I was looking for info from people who actually know about the SG and not just stating opinions. The "opinions" I stated earlier in the thread are not my own, just comments I have read on other forums. As far as wanting to play with guns? Heck who doesnt? Isnt that why most of us are here?
    Gotcha. Well then honestly I think the best thing you could do is first off, decide if you are willing to make the commitment that the SG requires. By that I mean things like the mandatory amount of training and the fact that you have to shell out your own money on a uniform. If you are OK with those things, then call the local recruiter and set up a time to meet and discuss joining up. You won't be under any commitment, so you can always decline if you hear stuff that just won't work for you personally.

    If the commitment is more than you feel ready to make, then find your local CERT group or other county level response and open up a dialogue with them. The training will be much less intense and they will usually supply you with everything you 'need'; which won't be much but it'll do. Your county Sheriff's department will probably be able to point you in the right direction if you are having trouble finding out who to talk to. There's also a good chance that there are city level volunteer groups as well, but only if you are located in a larger metropolitan area.
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