Maricopa County Deputies now required to carry carbines 24/7

This is a discussion on Maricopa County Deputies now required to carry carbines 24/7 within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by ppkheat Good deal, though it should have been implemented long ago. Part of PPKheat's long-term personal philosophy: A-If you wear a leo/security ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppkheat View Post
    Good deal, though it should have been implemented long ago.


    Part of PPKheat's long-term personal philosophy:

    A-If you wear a leo/security uniform, you also wear a gun.
    B-If you have a patrol car, it will contain at least one long gun, easily accessible.
    yep, my philosophy too, 24/7 off-duty I got one on me and one goes in the personal car
    and as for the patrol car, shotgun in the rack between the seats, AR in the trunk....and lots of spare loaded mags
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    We had an MCSO corrections officer murdered in his driveway this morning, and it seems wearing the uniform is fly paper for bad guys. Sheriff Joe has gone a step past merely enabling his deputies to carry patrol carbines, now he's requiring it. I'm not LEO but I sure can't find a major problem with this.

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    Prayers have been made for the Honored Fallen....and those left behind.

    With what you guys and gals are facing down at the border, I personally can not see ANY issue with his policy. In fact Smitty, I think all of you law abiding citizens in AZ should be ISSUED one as a resident. It's a disgrace they aren't doing more for our fellow citizens down your way.
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    ...always kept a long gun in POV...drummed into my rookies if they needed a gun off duty and away from the radio, they'd need it MORE than on-duty...those were the days when a "cell phone" took up the whole trunk...
    Quote Originally Posted by ppkheat View Post
    Good deal, though it should have been implemented long ago.


    Part of PPKheat's long-term personal philosophy:

    A-If you wear a leo/security uniform, you also wear a gun.
    B-If you have a patrol car, it will contain at least one long gun, easily accessible.
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    ...law enforcement has always been targeted...we had the BP and others sniping at us and setting up ambushes on us and the FD...it goes with the job...and even then we had BP making raids...gathering up..and releasing elsewhere instead of deporting...we just hear a lot more these days than when news travelled slower...

    ...professional LEOs have ALWAYS been on the defensive...
    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    It's a large understatement to say that it angers me that these LEO's are put in a position by our federal government (overriding attempts by their own state to protect them) that puts them on the defensive.

    Bad guys are supposed to be on the lam, not on the hunt. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you?

    Out of respect for forum rules, I'll stop there.

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    ...sounds like being well-armed to me!!!
    ...I remember when our sheriff put .30-.30s in the patrol cars...public got all upset...but he stuck to his guns...literally...now, almost every squad I see has an AR AND a shotgun stickin' up...
    Quote Originally Posted by 64zebra View Post
    yep, my philosophy too, 24/7 off-duty I got one on me and one goes in the personal car
    and as for the patrol car, shotgun in the rack between the seats, AR in the trunk....and lots of spare loaded mags
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snub44 View Post
    ...sounds like being well-armed to me!!!
    ...I remember when our sheriff put .30-.30s in the patrol cars...public got all upset...but he stuck to his guns...literally...now, almost every squad I see has an AR AND a shotgun stickin' up...
    Wow...I would have probably liked that sheriff. I also would have loved to have been able to carry a 30-30 in my cruiser. For rural law enforcement settings they would have been an ideal choice in my opinion, not to mention they would have been great for dispatching deer and such quickly. In my neck of the woods we would typically get black bear calls as well, and a lever gun would have surely come in handy on those.
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    I recently did a ride a long with a major city police dept. and all the officers went to their lockers after the morning meeting, and picked up their rifle cases to put in the patrol car with them. They carry in the trunk, or back compartment for SUV cruisers, but at least all of them were armed with a rifle if they need it. Good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanfordreed View Post
    I recently did a ride a long with a major city police dept. and all the officers went to their lockers after the morning meeting, and picked up their rifle cases to put in the patrol car with them. They carry in the trunk, or back compartment for SUV cruisers, but at least all of them were armed with a rifle if they need it. Good idea.
    While on vacation years (and years) ago, I did a ride-a-long with a Miami area department when I was still an active cop. When I got in the cruiser the officer looked at me and said, "You're a cop in Tennessee huh?". To which I responded, "Yep". He then asked me if I had my duty gun with me, I and said "yeah, is it okay?". He then brought out a gym bag that contained a few extra guns, ammo, loaded magazines, etc, and stated, "No you're fine, I was going to loan you one of mine if you didn't bring one." Within about 15 minutes I understood why he said that. Ride-a-longs in major cities are an eye opener...even for other cops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by From the article
    ... requiring all of his deputies to carry AR-15 assault rifles 24 hours per day.
    Am assuming if the model is the AR-15 that it's not the military-grade M16. Bummer, then, that the article's author is terming such things "assault" rifles when they're nothing of the sort ... despite looking similar, having a magazine.

    Kudos to the department for recognizing the utility of being well-armed, in a place where it's entirely likely to come across exceedingly heavily-armed "cartel" or other criminal folk in the course of a shift. It's about time.
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    I call BS folks, what are these officers being paid for being on call or working on their time off. Talk to the locals in the area & find out what the real atmosphere is.
    Once again the media is playing the people. Let's call it a political band aid..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HillyBilly View Post
    I call BS folks, what are these officers being paid for being on call or working on their time off. Talk to the locals in the area & find out what the real atmosphere is.
    Once again the media is playing the people. Let's call it a political band aid..
    I AM a local. You're probably more than a thousand miles away.
    I AM aware of the 'real atmosphere' here. You're not even in the same time zone.

    Political band-aid? Hardly. Joe Arpaio knows how to market and use the news media, but in light of what the 'other side' does, his actions don't come close to leveling the playing field.
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    It's too bad people have to die before these things go into effect....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    You're not in Kansas anymore.
    That's for certain....and least we forget....our Justice Department has done a fairly good job of arming the Cartels as of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostMaker View Post
    That's for certain....and least we forget....our Justice Department has done a fairly good job of arming the Cartels as of late.
    It's really sad when you think about it.
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