Lessons from our night qualification range

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    Lessons from our night qualification range

    Last night we had our Sheriff dept. qualification range--at night--full dark, no moonlight.

    1. Shooting with light in one hand, and pistol in other is harder than it looks. Its better than nothing, but still hard. (solution one--more practice. Solution two--weapon mounted light. Big sigh--more $$$)

    2. Same thing with my AR--harder to stay on target and not follow the light if you accidently shift the light in your off hand. (solution--a weapon mounted light--again, more $$$$)

    3. My pistol (I shot/qualified with both my new Sig with iron night sights and my 1911 with night sights AND Crimson Trace) with the Laser made an incredible difference at night. My groups with the Sig (w/o Laser) were WAY larger and the groups with the Laser were really nice and tight. (the BG would have been DRT with either, but I'm sold on the Laser for night shooting.) (but will also practice without them as well)
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    Scott were you using Lawman ammunition? I am asking because I have shot several different ammunitions at night and lawman appears to have a smaller flash than others I have shot. Takes me about 20 minutes to get my night vision back once I shoot.

    Imagine St. Peter I am here because I didn't want to spend the money on a rail light>
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    Manolito, I carry snubs an since most problems happen in low light situations I was searching for the best low flash ammo I could find. So far Buffalo Bore low flash low smoke is by far the best I have found.
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    Actually, the muzzle flash was not a big deal. My handheld flashlight puts out 400 lumens, so night vision is gone anyway.......
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    Muzzle flash can be a big deal if you happen to focus in on a gun being shot. I did that once and saw muzzle flashes on my eyeballs for several minutes. Big mistake. Couldn't even see the target after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Muzzle flash can be a big deal if you happen to focus in on a gun being shot. I did that once and saw muzzle flashes on my eyeballs for several minutes. Big mistake. Couldn't even see the target after that.
    Well, at least the muzzle flash wasn't aimed AT YOU
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    Easy8 thanks I am off to Cabelas to give it a try. I am not in enforcement I am a rancher let me just say a lot of predators are night stalkers ;-) Now if I could get one that eliminates skunk smell I would be in business.
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    Problem 1, solution two... thats no solution. WML are nice, but you still really need to know how to hold a light and shoot. There are more than a few methods for this, find one that works for you and practice.
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    You guys can see at night?
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    OV I know that the Airforce is inside with lights on but the rest of us have learned to use ambient light. The moon also reflects a fair amount of light.

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    We didn't work at night . . . We were partying at the pool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Problem 1, solution two... thats no solution. WML are nice, but you still really need to know how to hold a light and shoot. There are more than a few methods for this, find one that works for you and practice.
    And practice, and practice, and practice..........
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    problem with weapon mounted light is the temptation to use your gun as a flash light and there by pointing you gun before identifying the threat.
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