U.S. commandos raid Somalia, nab Libyan al Qaeda leader

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    U.S. commandos raid Somalia, nab Libyan al Qaeda leader

    MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — In a stealthy seaside assault in Somalia and in a raid in Libya’s capital, U.S. military forces on Saturday struck out against Islamic extremists who have carried out terrorist attacks in East Africa, snatching a man allegedly involved in the bombings of U.S. embassies 15 years ago but missing a man linked to last month’s attack on a Nairobi shopping mall.
    U.S. commandos raid Somalia, nab Libyan al Qaeda leader - Washington Times

    Chalk one up for the good guys!!!

    This rat's nest in Somalia needs cleaned up.
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    Too bad they missed the rat linked to the attack on the Nairobi Mall.

    I imagine, though, that his days are numbered.
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    Looks like DEVGRU essentially was pushed back by the defenders. The story has changed so much to make them look like they weren't pushed back.

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    Funny thing about special ops- we'll never know what happened... nor should we. At this point we have members of the media and political types making wild guesses and terrorists giving us their spin. The boots that were on the ground aren't going to tell us what happened, why it happened, or where it happened. The notion of DEVGRU being pushed back seems a bit of a stretch to me unless the bad guys were tipped off or something stupid happened on insertion. Those dudes are good at what they do and get these missions for a reason. You could take some highly trained people and put them on the defense and the sneaky SEAL guys would wipe the floor with them. I have a hard time believing that a bunch of terrorists that believe it is unmanly to aim and sacrilegious to seek cover pushed them back without something extraordinary being the cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echo_Four View Post
    Funny thing about special ops- we'll never know what happened... nor should we. At this point we have members of the media and political types making wild guesses and terrorists giving us their spin. The boots that were on the ground aren't going to tell us what happened, why it happened, or where it happened. The notion of DEVGRU being pushed back seems a bit of a stretch to me unless the bad guys were tipped off or something stupid happened on insertion. Those dudes are good at what they do and get these missions for a reason. You could take some highly trained people and put them on the defense and the sneaky SEAL guys would wipe the floor with them. I have a hard time believing that a bunch of terrorists that believe it is unmanly to aim and sacrilegious to seek cover pushed them back without something extraordinary being the cause.
    People thought the same thing when Delta along with Rangers and a few SEALs from six, two out of the three Spec-ops being Tier 1 ran into a ton of trouble with some skinny Somalians that eventually grew into thousands.

    Just cause these guys are the tip of the spear, doesn't mean they can't be challenged by scraggly 115lbs defenders.

    They said it was heavy fire that drove them back, now they backed off cause of kids? Which one is it?
    I'm thinking they ran into more defenders than what was supposed to be there and they got out of there.

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    Bad intel. Bad Intel. Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when it comes to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by packinnova View Post
    Bad intel. Bad Intel. Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when it comes to you?
    Do what they did and say next time buddy.

    If their target is still alive he is probably losing weight right now and barely sleeping. They'll be back for him.

    Delta is probably like "Hey Barack, send us in thanks"

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    Why the heck do we know ANY of the specifics of these raids?!!!

    Covert Ops should remain covert to protect the methods used and the people envolved in such operations. These actions should not be exposed for political "points".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    This rat's nest in Somalia needs cleaned up.
    But not our job, we are not the policemen of the world.
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    Fight them there or fight them here? I oick there.

    If the SEALs ran in to something like the Rangers did that night then I was right. If not for the problem with insertion that woukd have never happened. Not saying they couldn't face something like that but it takes a monumental error is intel or something else unexpected to open the door for the skinnys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echo_Four View Post
    Fight them there or fight them here? I [p]ick there.
    I have never bought that argument. Why do people not like the US? Because we meddle. We tell them how they are suppose to live their lives and people don't like that. We want people to have free elections and then get mad because they don't elect the group we wanted them to. Sorry but people don't have the same beliefs as us and they have that right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    But not our job, we are not the policemen of the world.
    This country leaders tend to think we are for the last 50+yrs.

    One reason why many across the world do not like this country.

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    It's almost always a team effort. They have radios, and DDGs parked 10-15nm out. The transit times on a 5" rapid fire guns is about 8 seconds, and there's no reason for a spotting round if the house is on the beach and can be locked up by the fire control radar (which is probably the case). NGFS from an AEGIS ship was extremely accurate even in my day, much more so than any other indirect fire. Hitting a house sized target on the shore would be no challenge, especially when the mission was already set up and the support could be locked in. One shell would be completely devastating, but they're usually fired in volleys of five. If they became concerned by resistance from the house after they had their guy they could make one, quick phone call and end that resistance. That also isn't counting whatever air assets (manned or unmanned) were assigned to loiter and monitor. I find it hard to believe they could be "out gunned". I think they got what they came for and left quickly. It sounds to me like they had the kid gloves on and were playing nice.
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