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    Will history repeat itself??.

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    I believe any administration would have done this.
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    This is a part of History that was not covered in my School History Class what a shame ................................and yes it can and will happen again .
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    We are already there, and have been for some time now.
    Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.

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    I dont understand the question. There is no similar group of vets protesting & camping out with their families, like during the last depression, is there?

    If the question is simply "Would US troops obey orders to move on US citizens?" ... They did the last time. And history from around the world tells us that many would again.

    Would US Troops, or the Natl Guard fire on unarmed citizens? See Kent State.

    Im not anti military, or our military. The Army has been very good to me & my family. But I am not one that would count on troops not acting against those they are ordered to act against.

    And many times, its the silliest thing that sets off the fireworks. Maybe a car backfires. Maybe there is one lone nut on either side, and they crack off the first shot. It doesnt matter after that. Its on.
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    Just a matter of when.
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    History does repeat itself and it will until we learn the lessons that it teaches
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    History definitely repeats itself and, unfortunately, so does ignorance and stupidity.
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    I think that we actually had a far more authoritarian culture in those days then we do today. Just a few things to consider.
    There was no UCMJ until after WWII. There was no GI Bill of Rights. In everyday law enforcement it was OK to shoot
    at people who committed relatively minor crimes and were fleeing. The police in that time had a free hand to beat a confession
    out of someone, and did. This was long before Miranda.

    What I'm getting at is it was a tougher world, and not simply because of the depression.

    Both MacArthur and Patton (who ordered the cavalry charge) would not make the grade in today's world.

    In the historical record and legacies Hoover, MacArthur, and Patton have paid a heavy price for those events.

    BTW, Posse Comitatus did not extend to D.C., so using the troops was lawful.

    What I have always found interesting is the line up of business people and politicians who had so much disdain
    for these men and their circumstances. I think we try and do a lot better today.

    Yes, they don't necessarily cover this part of history in school. The events get tangled up with a lot of hot button peripheral
    issues-- fairness for troops, fairness for workers, fear of communism, acceptance of brutality, Congressional shirking, that it is impossible to really teach this stuff anyplace but in a College level history course. It isn't just the events that need to be taught and remembered, it
    is the whole set of events, public opinion, and politics of the day, that need to be looked at.

    IMO, no, it wouldn't happen today. And if it did, somehow someone would be held responsible.

    Oh, for lots more take a look here -- Bonus Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    And note the following:

    "During the military operation, Major Dwight D. Eisenhower, later the 34th President of the United States, served as one of MacArthur's junior aides.[16] Believing it wrong for the Army's highest-ranking officer to lead an action against fellow American war veterans, he strongly advised MacArthur against taking any public role: "I told that dumb son-of-a-***** not to go down there," he said later. "I told him it was no place for the Chief of Staff."
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    I don't think our military would do that to our veterans in this day and age.
    If they did, I think the rest of the country would bust loose. BUT,
    In 15-20 years? who knows.
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    The Bonus Army does get taught in schools. At least in my classroom I always taught my American History students about the Bonus Army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    History does repeat itself and it will until we learn the lessons that it teaches
    Smitty's Corollary to Santayana's Famous Quote: "what we learn from history is that we don't learn from history."
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    Quote Originally Posted by rammerjammer View Post
    The Bonus Army does get taught in schools. At least in my classroom I always taught my American History students about the Bonus Army.
    I appreciate your effort. Thank you.
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    God, Country, Corps...My Sr. Drill Instructor in the Marines always said..."If the United States Government ever declares war on any of the three, then by God we will go to war with those ******** in Washington D.C!" Believed it then and now some 30 years later...just saying.
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