Small Sally Ports

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    Why a city jail would have a Sally Port that can fit one vehicle at a time is beyond me. Just frustrating.

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    Makes no sense to me. A Sally Port at a big prison would be in order though.
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    What's a 'Sally Port'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NONAME762 View Post
    What's a 'Sally Port'?
    A set of interior and exterior gates creating a small enclosed space where vehicles can be inspected for contraband coming into or inmates attempting to leave the facility. The term comes from medieval times when knights would group in the sally port before sallying forth to attack the enemy.

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    Actually a one car sally port makes sense from a security standpoint. That way, they are sure to only take on what they can handle at any one time. One seems to be the number for them and how they're staffed. Or at least it was at the time of construction.

    A few county jails I visit on a regular basis can hold a dozen or so in their sally ports, and its often chaos if there is one or more combative prisoners.
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    The jail is supposed to be doing some remodeling in a few months. Hopefully they will address the problem. It took me over an hour to get in. Most of the jails in the area, I'm in and out in about 20 to 30 min.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWarden View Post
    The jail is supposed to be doing some remodeling in a few months. Hopefully they will address the problem. It took me over an hour to get in. Most of the jails in the area, I'm in and out in about 20 to 30 min.
    But once inside, to they have intake suitable to handle the demand? If not, its a matter of waiting inside vs outside. I'll wait outside given a choice.
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    Police stations i have worked have a two or three car sally port and they are approx 10 or 15 thousand square foot buildings .
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    The one and only time I worked briefly at a penitentiary the "sally port" was adequate for 1 large vehicle at a time (e.g., a semi-trailer) and only 1 was allowed in or out at a time. This wasn't a visitor's entrance, and was mostly used
    for bringing supplies in and out. The guards began work by observing from below ground level fortified bunkers with "glass"sufficiently low to see under a vehicle. If they deemed it safe to exit the bunker they inspected everything--- driver, passenger, visitors, under the truck, inside the truck bed, under the hood. Cons were known to try and escape by hiding in the engine compartment of 18 wheelers. Drivers were known to try to deliver contraband. Everything was scrutinized well.

    We parked our van outside the gate, identified ourselves to the guard who then opened one end of the sally port, let us walk in, locked it in back of us. He then interrogated us, even though he knew exactly who we were and why we were there--- just the rules--- and when all the little boxes were checked the other end of the gate was opened.

    We were not examined for contraband, but then we were "special visitors" not people there to visit with the prisoners, not there to perform any specific duties for the prison, and were invitees of the warden. Mingling with the prisoners was a hair raising experience. At any time they chose they could have killed the guards and the lot of us too. The only real security was a certainty that no matter what, they could not get out.

    Three-4 hours was enough. I was quite impressed by the "friendly" manner between the guards and the cons, but at the same time everyone knew exactly what their place was, what they could and could not do.

    That was an experience I'm glad I had, but once was enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdave View Post
    A set of interior and exterior gates creating a small enclosed space where vehicles can be inspected for contraband coming into or inmates attempting to leave the facility. The term comes from medieval times when knights would group in the sally port before sallying forth to attack the enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    But once inside, to they have intake suitable to handle the demand? If not, its a matter of waiting inside vs outside. I'll wait outside given a choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    But once inside, to they have intake suitable to handle the demand? If not, its a matter of waiting inside vs outside. I'll wait outside given a choice.
    The remodeling is supposed to include the inside as well. What it all is going to look like I don't know. The whole lay-out is outdated and the city knows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welder516 View Post
    Police stations i have worked have a two or three car sally port and they are approx 10 or 15 thousand square foot buildings .
    Most of the ones I go to are just like that, if not larger. This city jail is just outdated and in need of a remake.
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