Polk County, Oregon deputies will only patrol 10 hours a day starting Saturday

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    Polk County, Oregon deputies will only patrol 10 hours a day starting Saturday

    Several counties in Oregon are cutting back due to loss of timber taxes.

    http://www.statesmanjournal.com/arti...nclick_check=1
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    maybe people who only carry when they feel they "may" need it will start carrying those other 14 hours.
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    Not good......I would venture to say that if this occurs there will be some Ne'er-Do-Well take advantage of the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaCharlie View Post
    Several counties in Oregon are cutting back due to loss of timber taxes.

    http://www.statesmanjournal.com/arti...nclick_check=1
    I saw that on the news. Lucky for me I have a spotted owl to guard my place.

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    My first thought was the LEOs' patrols would last only 10 hours. Some LEOs would die for only 10 hours.
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    This has already been going on for some time. The funny thing is their crime rate is unchanged! The only thing I could see changing that would be an organized crime ring moving in that has sufficient number that they are unafraid of a homeowners gun! DR

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    IMO This is a result of poor planning. It seems the county had a windfall in revenue from logging. Instead of planning, saving, and staying within a sustainable budget they threw a party. They (Much like states with lotteries) use the windfall cash like it's part of the regular tax base. Now when the money ran out they find themselves unable to provide some basic services.

    I dont get how this is the federal governmsnts fault. Thats like getting a tax return from the federal government and buying a car you cant afford on your normal budget. Then blaming the federal government when that car gets repossesed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Spuk View Post
    IMO This is a result of poor planning. It seems the county had a windfall in revenue from logging. Instead of planning, saving, and staying within a sustainable budget they threw a party. They (Much like states with lotteries) use the windfall cash like it's part of the regular tax base. Now when the money ran out they find themselves unable to provide some basic services.

    I dont get how this is the federal governmsnts fault. Thats like getting a tax return from the federal government and buying a car you cant afford on your normal budget. Then blaming the federal government when that car gets repossesed.

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    Timber industry in these areas were run like a farming operation. New trees were planted to replace those harvested. The Government allowed these industry's shut down on the advise of a few unhappy enviro wackos. Timber industry's had over 100 years of good forest management going that was ignored by politicians on the other side of the continent.
    So comparing this to a one time windfall from the government is not accurate. These people not only lost their tax base but every industry up there has been shut down. Trucking business, truck repair, wood products, furniture, grocery stores are all out of business because with no jobs there is no money! DR

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    Oregon like many Western states have a lot of their land owned by the Federal government. For decades the Forest Service would return 25% of timber sales to these Oregon counties in lieu of property taxes the Federal government does not pay for the land they own in these counties. There are not enough private land owners in rural counties to make up the difference with say higher property taxes.

    The feds came up with a few programs to help these counties and the lost revenue. This is probably what the Sheriff is referring to. Oregon has 31 million acres in the federal hand. Responsibility, insight, and planning seem to be in short supply all across our land at the local, state and federal level.

    The marbled murrelet will soon be replacing the spotted owl. This will affect the forests and land all the way down to the beaches. I don't know how one can plan and budget for the constant and never ending challenges brought to the public on so many fronts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Spuk View Post
    It seems the county had a windfall in revenue from logging.
    No, the Feds shut down all logging on their land. The payments were designed to replace the lost revenue of the tax paid on logs coming out of federal land. This county as well as numerous others in the area were not able to replace the jobs and tax base lost before the payments stopped.

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    There are several Oregon counties in this crunch and the Oregon State Police have cut back and often don't have officers on duty at night in rural areas. If you don't live in a larger incorporated city with their own police force, you are on you own at night. Help isn't minutes away, it can be hours away.
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    Can we feed the enviro-nazis to the spotted owls and marbled murrelets ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nontechguy View Post
    Can we feed the enviro-nazis to the spotted owls and marbled murrelets ?
    We can neither confirm nor deny whether we do or do not feed enviro-Nazis to any creature.

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    At present Im not sure that would be a bad thing in my area. Several of the deputies in the past several weeks here have been arrested for either being undiscovered felons before they were hired several years ago, dealing meth, coerced sexual favors in return for not serving warrants etc.

    Kinda beginning to wonder who the BGs really are lately around here
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