Vets staging counter-protest to protect Wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slider View Post
    I Sure hope many of you younger people who are able, will support this action! Remember Vet's of the Nam are all pushing 60 and some (like me ) 15 More. ( What is Freedom worth to you?) Please Lord don't allow them to deface the WALL!!

    Viet Nam 67-68 US Army.
    I'm 26(is that young enough?) and planning on trying to attend. I didn't serve, but damn sure wont allow someone to disrespect those who did. I know why I enjoy the freedoms I do so easily. I rarely travel in disarmed DC, but it's worth it for things like this.

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    I haven't seen anywhere what the armbands they willo be wearing in D.C. but I plan to take a 2inch wide Yellow ribbon about 55 inches long, sew a sholder patch flag on in the center, then wrap it around my arm, tie it in back then bring it back around to the front and tie a large bow, thereby showing my support for the troops plus my patriotism. I say 55inches because of the size of my arms, I tride 45inches and didn't have enough length for a good bow.

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    I have thought about the design of the armband and have decided to some changes. After I sew the flag onto the ribbon, I will stich a large safety pin on the back. then I waill lay out a shirt and position the flag where I want it and pin it to the shirt. Then cross the ribbon in back forming it around the sleave, stich the ribbon together top and bottom, bring the endss around the front and make the bow, then stich the top of the not to the bottom of the flaf in the center. Now one can put the shirt on, or remove the armband by unpinning it and reatach it to any garment you like.

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    I have lain awake all night stewing.

    In 1969 when I returned Stateside I was told I had to travel in my Dress Blues, The military drove me to the civilian airport in Philly. after checking my hold baggage, I proceded to the gate. On the way people called me names, spit on me, and threw food at me. When I arrived at the gate my Dress Blues were a mess, covered with spittle, catchup, mustard, grease, and all sorts of other garbage. All I had in my carry on was a set of civies, My Dress Blues were ruined. I left them in the bathroom garbage.

    This experience has weighed upon me for 38years/ And now the traitor Fonda and her henchmen are at it again.
    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ..... THIS IS A CALL TO ARMS!!!!
    While as many Veterans Friends and Family gather in Washington D.C. to protect the Vietnam Memorial, the rest of the Veterans in the country need to gather en mass at other War Memorials accross the country, if not all, at least the most prominant in the state. No fanfare, no anouncement, just show up.

    The troops need our support, It doesn't matter if one thinks the war is legal or not. Those are our children, friends and aquaintances fighting over there. Anyone who was in the Vietnam War knows how much it hurt our spirit to not be supported by our own people.

    The Militia of this country is the people, most importantly our Veterans. I say contact your local VFW, American Legion, Elks Club, Eagles, Moose, Rotary, Masons and any other orginization that Veterans might gather. Encourage them to put the word out. Make arm bands, pass them out and on March 17 (Saint Patricks Day) a saturday, when the anti war traitors gather in washington, The Veterans collect at War Memorials accross the nation like Leprecans to Protect them and to show a united suport for Our troops wherever they may be.

    Lets Shock the pants off the anti Politicians, Anti Celebrities, and anti Media.

    HOOHAH

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    Miggy,don't lower yourself to their level wtih the shirt...Your better for it.

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    I'm pretty sure these protesters aren't going to be trying to desecrate the Wall. They generally try to overcome the stigma of the Vietnam-era protests which focused on individual soldiers.

    They try to put out the image that they're pro-troop, hence they want the troops home. Why would any of them try to desecrate the Vietnam memorial?? They're trying to use it as a symbol of a tragedy that they see repeating itself today.

    Not too say that you can't be too careful, but this isn't 1960. The target of the protest is the government, not the servicemembers abroad. Many Vietnam verterans aren't big fans of the government, etiher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentX View Post
    Why would any of them try to desecrate the Vietnam memorial??
    Times aren't that different. Same "5 o'clock follies," same instances of murder/rape from some servicemen, same instances of "mistaken" bombings, same misjudging of the field, same lack of brass cojones to succeed on the ground. The only thing in this mix that is different, so far, is the level of resistance and "symbols" being used.

    Thankfully, there is no large scale spitting/trashing being done against those in service. But, Fonda did such a number on those POW's by her actions and the insidious nature of her "spitting" that I can't fault anyone for saying: never again.

    Fonda & Co. want to protest? Great. They can bring spray paint and bull horns, then head over to the Capitol steps to voice displeasure in the proper direction ... at the stupidity and gall that's putting servicemen in the crosshairs for bad reasons. Don't dare do it at the VM. It is, indeed, a symbol. It should be treated as the symbol it is.
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    Go Vets

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    Yeah, but in a larger sense, no one in the protest biz will risk alienating themselves from the culture at large which supports the servicemen. That's not to say that some nutjob or blowhard teenager won't try something at the Wall, and I don't think it's unreasonable for the vets to protect the place.

    Just saying I wouldn't expect an outpouring of anti- servicemember feeling. The protesters are trying to co-opt as many servicemembers and their families as possible to create political pressure.

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    Ed: And you can look at the recent issue with the soldiers trying to mail-order to APO to see that there are some unreasonable people out there holding grudges against troops...like I said, not unreasonable to be prepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentX View Post
    Yeah, but in a larger sense, no one in the protest biz will risk alienating themselves from the culture at large which supports the servicemen. That's not to say that some nutjob or blowhard teenager won't try something at the Wall, and I don't think it's unreasonable for the vets to protect the place.

    Just saying I wouldn't expect an outpouring of anti- servicemember feeling. The protesters are trying to co-opt as many servicemembers and their families as possible to create political pressure.
    I hope (and expect) that in general you're right, and that most who are protesting the war are not anti-service member.

    That said, I'm glad the vets will be there.

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    God bless all the Vietnam Vets!!!!! they were never given the respect that they deserved...thats all I got to say!!
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    If any one deserves respect it's the Vietnam Vets. They sure didn't see the respect they deserved when they came home. Then there was people like JANE Fonda who sided with the enemy.

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    I understand that the GoE this past Sat. was a roaoring success. I was listening to XM166 AmericaRight and it was reported that the number of "Eagles" was higer than that of protestors accounts vary but it could have been as high as 2-1 Eagles v protestors.

    Great Job Guys!!!
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