March 13th, 2007 02:32 PM
There should be a law for military exemption for guns and ammo
I don't get it. Why can't our government see this problem?
My son is 20 years old, in the USAF and is stationed at the local base.
By law he can't buy a gun or ammo for himself. When he rented a gun, he couldn't under his own name. I had to rent it for him.
When he was going to use my gun he couldn't go buy ammo for it. I had to buy it for him.
He is in the military! He is trained to handle guns. He can go to war and be armed 24/7. But when he gets back our government doesn't trust him to buy a gun or ammo.
They need to make an exception when it comes to legal ages to buy guns and ammo.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
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March 13th, 2007 02:54 PM
It is ridiculous without a doubt.
When you think of a guy that can run an M1A3 tank, pilot a nuclear warship or an aircraft any of which could blow a city off the map,but he cant buy a pistol or the ammo for it, it makes no sense.
Its actually kind of embarrassing.
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March 13th, 2007 03:13 PM
not only that--but he can't even have a beer!!
It pains me everytime this kind of issue comes up.
"go to war"--but you need to be 21 to own/hold/buy a gun or ammo
"risk your life"--but you can't buy a beer
Because unlike the rest of the world, if these young Sailors, Soldiers, Airmen, Marines, and Coast Guardsmen get in trouble, not only do they need to worry about an upset wife, kids, parents--but one PO'd Chief, Senior Chief, 1st Sgt, Top, LPO, NCOIC (pick one) who needs to mentor the young man/woman and have him/her learn the error of his/her ways.
March 13th, 2007 03:33 PM
This sounds like one of those stupid laws that need to be changed. If you join the service and are stationed in Oklahoma which is your home state your civil rights are suspended. This sucks big time. Is this the same in all states? Our boys are over in Irac and their gun rights are suspended at home. What a joke.
March 13th, 2007 04:02 PM
I agree its stupid to not allow young military people to buy what ever it is they want, but heres the logic behind it.
Very very few MOS's are trained to use handguns. Very few. Those that are, use them under close supervision of NCO's, or other Officers. (that is true with any weapon)
Then again, come to think of it... I made E-5 at 20...
March 13th, 2007 04:22 PM
I'm with you up to this point...
Originally Posted by Maverick7340
They (meaning We, really) need to get rid of the age restrictions on purchasing firearms and ammunition.
If we need to take incremental steps to get there, fine... but the goal should be that purchasing firearms and ammunition are no more restricted than purchasing a newspaper or a book, or a stick of gum, for that matter.
Why shouldn't a 15 year old be able to purchase a box of .22 for pest control around the farm? Why shouldn't a 19 year old college student be able to purchase a defensive firearm for her apartment? Why can't I order a new pistol and have it shipped to my house? And for sure, a solder of the Unites States armed forces should _never_ be prevented from purchasing any product that's legal for any other citizen to purchase.
I know... it's 'for the children', and it helps 'keep us safe', right?
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March 13th, 2007 04:48 PM
Originally Posted by SIXTO
However--in today's day and age, a majority of servicemembers have been to Iraq/Afghanistan/HOA or are on their way there or on their way home. Everyone deploys with at least one weapon...so I wouldn't discount your transportation guy or mail clerk...
March 13th, 2007 05:44 PM
Mav, I don't know where you are in OK, but ya'gotta know how to play the system: I assume you were at Wally World, or similar? If so, in most places, he can purchase, if he states it is for a rifle/carbine. It wouldn't hurt to have his mil ID out when he's asking, either. You may encounter a butt-head, or a by-the-booker, but generally..........
March 13th, 2007 05:46 PM
IMHO when they are old enough to serve , and vote they are dammed shure old enough to buy , drink , carry , and all the other immoral activitys the nanny state wants to protect us from .
Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life .
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March 13th, 2007 05:58 PM
they're wearing the uniform, representing this, the greatest of nations.
people hate us for no reason other than we love America.
they deserve the right to defend themselves, as much as i do. and to train themselves, etc.
once you've completed basic training, in any branch, if im not mistaken, you've qualified at least basic pistol and range. that military ID should qualify you
March 13th, 2007 07:26 PM
Even though it's not an issue to me anymore as I have surpassed the 21 year old mark I'm still young enough to remember that it sucked. I have to admit that I know some 50+ people that aren't responsible enough to drink or buy ammo. I also know some 18 year olds who have their heads on pretty straight.
March 13th, 2007 07:41 PM
Heck, when I went into the Army at 18 I gave up the right to drink (Drinking age of 18 in NY State back then.) I couldn't vote or do much of anything else. I think what ticked me off most was having to pay taxes on my meager military pay, yet couldn't vote (taxation without representation) ........ One of the things I was "fighting" to protect!
Still feel bad that our military give up so many of the rights they are defending, but that is the sacrifice that our military (and I) chose to make!
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March 13th, 2007 08:02 PM
I agree 100%
Originally Posted by Redneck Repairs
Even if this is true, the rules are very different over seas and in a war zone. They still cant purchase ammo or the weapon, it is issued to them and used under close supervision.
Originally Posted by SIGguy229
You should have claimed Florida as your home state
Originally Posted by rstickle
March 13th, 2007 08:04 PM
Personally I believe anyone in the military (soldier, sailor, airman, marine, or coastie) has earned the right to enjoy all the same rights and perks other adults (over 21) enjoy. If you are old enough to risk your life for the country and its citizens then you are old enough to accept the responsibilties, previleges, and rights the rest of us enjoy. I have great respect for those who have served, still serve, and will serve in the future. My father (deceased 2002) served in Europe during WWII (Infantry 1943-1945).
March 13th, 2007 08:10 PM
Uh...how are you defining close supervision?? Last I saw, PVT Snuffy was engaging BGs and he didn't have two range safety officers and his mommy looking over his shoulder.
Originally Posted by SIXTO
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