Too much restraint, maybe. That guy was danger-close and not following any instructions... had he wanted to do harm instead of just commit suicide by cop he could have gutted Officer Hilling before he was down. Brave cop, though.
I am not going to second guess anyone when I haven't walked in their shoes. He did show amazing restraint. But I did find it disconcerting when the nut job and the LEO were separated by what appears to be a civilian car. I couldn't tell if it was occupied or not, but it appeared nut job had exited whatever perimeter was set up, thus endangering any motorist in the immediate area. On the other hand, the owner of the car have made a strategic retreat when they saw nut job approaching. I think this was about as well handled as can be expected, and the officer can sleep soundly with no reason to feel any guilt for having to shoot someone. Sounds like nut job will get his day in court for murdering his roommate.
This happened on a section of the interstate that is at least 3, maybe 4 lanes across (It narrows down somewhere right around there, I forget precisely).
At one point the camera pans back, and you can see traffic coming to a stop/backing up on the expressway, so it is likely that the red car was boxed in, and couldn't really move. If it is the spot I think it is, the cars would already be past an entrance ramp, and about 3/4 of a mile to go until the next exit.
Exactly. Fear is what came to mind. It seemed to me he did as his training taught him, up until it was time to shoot. The officer is very lucky to be alive.....
Yea, have done the Tueller drill, many times, and I'd much rather have a baton/asp and use my angles, instead of attempting to draw my sidearm.
But like I said and I agree two is better. But the officer did what was necessary in this situation, and I'm sure has had enough constructive criticism to learn from his mistakes.
An officer will usually follow training, but also his personal conviction.
I refuse to judge his actions, because I have been in similar situations and decided not to shoot immediately, and found another way to deal with the situation.
The question that I have is I wonder how the officer feels about his service caliber after watching the guy get up pretty much unfazed from a gut shot, which was pretty much the advocated shot by a great lawman mentioned in an earlier thread.
I am not going to get back into the Jelly Bryce thing (and would never question him), but I would never aim for the gut (this LEO probably aimed COM). There is a lot more important stuff higher up. Also, as Bad Bob said above, I would never shoot just once and wait to see what happened.
We've all read about how ineffective handgun rounds are for one shot stops. I have never seen one-shot-then-assess advocated anywhere, regardless of shot placement. Based on what we have read about Jelly, the guy in this video would have had five rounds in him before the shooter got to the P part of STOP!
This was not an example of good police work, even though it turned out "OK". This is an example of piss poor tactics and what the current climate in LE has created.
That's the judicial system's problem. With a 77% repeat crime rate (per FBI stats), I don't think the prison system is rehabilitating very well.
But saying what you just did makes it sound like you'd rather have seen the suspect/perpetrator die. Which is pretty sick of you ask me.
I mean, I know what you are getting at, and I agree that I don't like tax payers having to pay for this guy to continue to screw up. I get it. But one must be careful how one articulates that.
I'll speak on behalf of all the citizens of Maryland and say "Thank You" to the Ohio LEOs for picking up our trash.....
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