A negligent discharge by the Secret Service

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    A negligent discharge by the Secret Service

    http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...src=rss&rpc=22

    The agent was holding his service weapon and accidently hurt someone else. I doubt we are going to get the whole story
    "[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons.
    They are left in full possession of them."

    Zacharia Johnson (speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention,25 June 1778)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." ~Alexander Hamilton

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    No...ND?

    I have a good friend whose son-in-law is a ss agent in the WH...

    We'll never hear much about this story...

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    Well if they told us...it wouldn't be a secret.
    One thing that is not a secret though is that agent that NDed will not be on the White House team anymore. You can take that to the bank.
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    The Secret Service must do at minum 2yrs on Presidental Detail, if he doesn't have his 2yrs he may be gone.
    "[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons.
    They are left in full possession of them."

    Zacharia Johnson (speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention,25 June 1778)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." ~Alexander Hamilton

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    This was not an agent. There are USSS Officers who guard the White House perimeter and gates, they are not agents.

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    I wonder what kind of gun he had? Sounds like he had a real bad day.

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    The uniformed branch isn't trained to nearly the level the plain-clothed guys get. But an ND is unacceptable in ANY police functionary. His supervisor should be evaluated as well concerning training and discipline.
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    Uniformed SS carry SIG P229/9mm

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    I guess I didn't get that there was a difference between the unis and the agents. But irregardless it's just one agency that a person would think that would know better than to fondle a loaded pistol
    "[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons.
    They are left in full possession of them."

    Zacharia Johnson (speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention,25 June 1778)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." ~Alexander Hamilton

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    I read the book by Stephen Hunter about the attempt on Harry Truman in 1950("American Gunfight") a great book, and the way the Secret Service was changed after this happened. I used to work on the Columbine, Eisenhower's plane, and the Secret Service guys, at least the one's not in uniform were really pros. I don't know about the uniformed ones I believe most of them were ex state patrol cops out of Pennsylvania at one time. I was asked questions by three SS officers during an investigation of a problem with the aircraft one day and all three were wearing Phi Beta Kappa keys. You don't get those in a cereal box. In the military we had a barrel full of sand to fire into when dropping the hammer after clearing a gun. You could be punished if your gun did fire when you did this. I can't imagine what could have happened with these guys in the
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    Uniformed SS carry SIG P229/9mm

    No they don't. They (Uniform Division) carry exactly the same weapon as the Agents do...the P229 in .357Sig. Right model, wrong caliber. :c)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakotaranger View Post
    The Secret Service must do at minum 2yrs on Presidental Detail, if he doesn't have his 2yrs he may be gone.
    Secret Service personnel are not required to work the Presidentail Detail. Many never do during their entire career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatGonzo View Post
    Secret Service personnel are not required to work the Presidentail Detail. Many never do during their entire career.
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    I guess I was wrong about that one to. I must have misunderstood the Secret Service Agent we had on campus, of course that was about 10 yrs ago.
    "[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons.
    They are left in full possession of them."

    Zacharia Johnson (speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention,25 June 1778)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." ~Alexander Hamilton

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    Anyone remember the incident several years ago when a PPD Agent had a ND of an Uzi on board Air Force One?

    The aircraft was on the ground at the time. I think it happened in London, but I'm not sure.


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