FATS for non-LEO?
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I was talking to my son last night. He is former Navy security and was talking about FATS training while at Lackland. He ...
May 17th, 2007 09:58 AM
FATS for non-LEO?
I was talking to my son last night. He is former Navy security and was talking about FATS training while at Lackland. He mentioned how good it is -- and how much fun.
We were wondering...is this available for non-LEO?
If so, where? We are in Florida-he's on the West Coast and I'm on the East Coast.
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May 17th, 2007 10:06 AM
It is fantastic training, I dont see why it wouldnt be for the "regular Joe" too. Most of the senarios are for LEO's, but that wouldnt matter to much.
I dont know where you can go to do it on a regular basis, the machines are expensive and it aint exactly arcade material.
We have our citizens police academy do it, and sometimes tour groups that come through the PD. They are always amazed how tough it really is, and it silences the "just shoot 'em in the leg" crowd.
So, I suggest joining your local PD's citizen police academy, and ask if FATS is available to you. I am sure one near by will do it.
May 17th, 2007 10:45 AM
Scottsdale Gun Club
If you are a member is affordable
May 17th, 2007 12:25 PM
Er... gents... The only FATS training I am aware off is offered by Jenny Craig and I don't think that is what you mean. WTH is FATS?
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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May 17th, 2007 12:30 PM
Originally Posted by Miggy
Its a first person shooting simulator... lots of fun and good training too.
May 17th, 2007 12:44 PM
I'm a Reserve Police for the little city I live in. A few weeks ago we had a FATS loaned to our PD for a couple weeks. Every officer was required to go through at least 4 hours of this training.
MAN oh MAN! This was very extreme to me. After my time I was both "wired" and exhausted at the same time.
If you take it seriously (which I did) I'll wear you out.
About 98% of the scenarios I went through were LEO specific, a few were off duty senarios that could count\help for anyone CC'ing.
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May 17th, 2007 01:11 PM
It suprised the heck out of me how true this is! You wouldnt think a "video" game would affect you this way, but it does.
Originally Posted by ArmyCop
It even more true if you have been in like situations in real life. It will get your heart rate up...
May 17th, 2007 03:10 PM
We have a FATS simulator at my range, Range USA. It's like $25 for an hour or 30 minutes. It's pretty fun in there.
May 17th, 2007 03:17 PM
Your address, phone number and hours of operation please.....
Originally Posted by crazyassazian
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May 17th, 2007 05:07 PM
I had no idea SGC offered all of that! Whoa! I'm not seeing the FATS system, but their facility looks like it might be worth it - period.
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May 17th, 2007 05:28 PM
Fats is the hoot imho . It does have limits , but is a fantastic tool to use on training . I have not shot one since the old lazer disk days lol but i did shoot one of the first 3 to go to the " cop " market .. wasn't a lot of LE specific material back then .
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May 17th, 2007 08:35 PM
FATS is/can be a fantastic training tool. It can be set up so that you can watch your sight picture and see how your breathing, grip, trigger pull affects shot placement. Recoil can be set for all most none to much greater then actual. Not to mention the various shoot don’t shoot, ranges, building clearing etc. The better the operator the better your experience and training. You can get instant critiques on how you screwed up with out the blood. It does not take the place of actually shooting but it is a great tool. You can do a lot with it that you could never afford to do normally.
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May 18th, 2007 02:54 AM
Love FATS....its awsome. BUTTTTTTTTT did ya'al know there is a cheaper version aimed at shooters in general? Check out http://www.lasershot.com/
Saw them at a trade show and the system was neat and a heck'a lot less than FATS.
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May 18th, 2007 03:40 AM
The range I took my permit class at, Caswell's, in Mesa, has a video trainer that is pretty good. They gave us about 20 minutes each in it during class. Although I'm a member, I have never been through the one in Scottsdale.....
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May 18th, 2007 10:11 AM
That was most likely FATS... Caswell is the parent company of FATS.
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