NYPD 2005 Firearms Discharge Report

NYPD 2005 Firearms Discharge Report

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    NYPD 2005 Firearms Discharge Report

    As reported by WCBS2 (NY):

    May 22, 2007 5:00 pm US/Eastern
    NYPD 2005 Firearms Discharge Report

    NEW YORK The Firearms Discharge Report is broken down into four main categories:

    - Gunfights: when the officer(s) and subject(s) fire at each other
    - Other Shootings Vs Subjects: when an officer(s) fires in defense of himself or another against a subject(s) and the subject(s) does not return fire
    - Against Dogs
    - Accidental Discharges: when an officer unintentionally discharges a firearm

    These incidents are examined to identify dangerous conditions and to develop preventive measures.

    During 2005, a total of 166 officers fired weapons in 123 incidents, as compared to 144 opfficers firing weapons in 114 incidents in the year 2004. In 2005, only 59 incidents (48 percent) have been against human subjects (16 gunfights, 43 other shootings vs. subjects).

    Total Number Of Incidents

    Total Number Of Incidents ('04) 114
    Total Number Of Incidents ('05): 123
    Increase: 8 percent
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('04): 352
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('05): 616
    Increase: 75 percent

    Gunfights 11

    Gunfights ('04): 11
    Gunfights ('05): 16
    Increase: 45 percent
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('04): 92
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('05): 276
    Increase: 200 percent
    Total Number Of Hits ('04): 18
    Total Number Of Hits ('05): 23
    Increase: 28 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('04): 20 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('05): 8 percent

    Other Shootings Vs. Subjects 40

    Other Shootings Vs. Subjects ('04) 40
    Other Shootings Vs. Subjects ('05) 43
    Increase: 8 percent
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('04): 140
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('05): 196
    Increase: 40 percent
    Total Number Of Hits ('04): 47
    Total Number Of Hits ('05): 59
    Increase: 23 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('04): 34 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('05): 30 percent

    Against Dogs

    Against Dogs ('04) 26
    Against Dogs ('05) 32
    Increase: 23 percent
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('04): 69
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('05): 93
    Increase: 35 percent
    Total Number Of Hits ('04): 40
    Total Number Of Hits ('05): 57
    Increase: 43 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('04): 58 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('05): 61 percent

    Accidental Discharges

    Accidental Discharges ('04) 27
    Accidental Discharges ('05) 24
    Decrease: 11 percent
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('04): 28
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('05): 25
    Decrease: 11 percent
    Total Number Of Hits ('04): 13
    Total Number Of Hits ('05): 10
    Decrease: 23 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('04): 46 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('05): 40 percent

    Suicide Attempted

    Suicide Attempted ('04) 5
    Suicide Attempted ('05) 3
    Decrease: 40 percent
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('04): 5
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('05): 3
    Decrease: 40 percent
    Total Number Of Hits ('04): 5
    Total Number Of Hits ('05): 3
    Decrease: 40 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('04): 100 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('05): 100 percent

    Other

    Other ('04) 5
    Other ('05) 5
    No Change
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('04): 18
    Total Number Of Shots Fired ('05): 22
    Increase: 18
    Total Number Of Hits ('04): 2
    Total Number Of Hits ('05): 2
    No Change
    Percentage Of Hits ('04): 11 percent
    Percentage Of Hits ('05): 9 percent

    Statistical Summaries

    Total Number Of Firearms Incidents ('05)
    Accidental Discharges: 24, 19.5
    Gunfights: 16, 13 percent
    Other Shootings Vs. Subjects: 43, 35 percent
    Dogs: 32, 26 percent
    Mistaken Identity: 0, 0 percent
    Others: Intoxicated, Domestic, etc.: 5, 4.1 percent
    Suicide: 3, 2.4 percent
    Total: 123, 100 percent

    Number Of Incidents By Day ('05)
    Sunday: 20, 16.2 percent
    Monday: 13, 10.6 percent
    Tuesday: 20, 16.2 percent
    Wednesday: 13, 10.6 percent
    Thursday: 16, 13 percent
    Friday: 17, 13.8 percent
    Saturday: 24, 19.5 percent

    Number Of Incidents By Tour ('05)
    On-Duty
    0001 - 0800: 32, 26 percent
    0801 - 1600: 27, 22 percent
    1601 - 2400: 38, 31 percent
    Subtotal: 97, 79 percent

    Off-Duty
    0001 - 0800: 10, 8 percent
    0801 - 1600: 7, 5.7 percent
    1601 - 2400: 9, 7.3 percent
    Subtotal: 26, 21 percent
    Total: 123, 100 percent

    Number Of Incidents By Borough ('05)
    Manhattan South: 6, 4.9 percent
    Manhattan North: 16, 13 percent
    Bronx 27, 22 percent
    Brooklyn South: 26, 21.1 percent
    Brooklyn North: 26, 21.1 percent
    Queens South: 17, 14 percent
    Queens North: 5, 4 percent
    Staten Island: 5, 4 percent
    Outside City: 5, 4 percent
    Total: 123, 100 percent

    Number Of Incidents By Month('05)
    January: 12, 9.8 percent
    February: 7, 5.7 percent
    March: 8, 6.5 percent
    April: 10, 8.1 percent
    May: 10, 8.1 percent
    June: 12, 9.8 percent
    July: 13, 10.6 percent
    August: 8, 6.5 percent
    September: 8, 6.5 percent
    October: 16, 13 percent
    November: 9, 7.3 percent
    December 10, 8.1 percent
    Total: 123, 100 percent

    Officer Statistics ('05)

    Number Of Officer Discharges
    Captains And Above: 2
    Lieutenants: 4
    Sergeants: 19
    Detectives: 33
    Police Officers: 103
    Probationary Police Officers: 3
    Undercover: 2

    Officer Duty Status And Attire
    On Duty In Uniform: 79, 48 percent
    On Duty In Civilian Atire: 61, 37 percent
    Off Duty: 26, 15 percent

    Number Of Incidents Outdoors: 49
    Number Of Incidents Indoors: 74

    Members' Accuracy At Distance Fired:

    00 - 02 Yds
    Uniformed Members Of Service: 64
    Number Of Shots Fired: 127
    Number Of Hits: 65
    Percentage Of Hits: 51

    03 - 07 Yds
    Uniformed Members Of Service: 44
    Number Of Shots Fired: 155
    Number Of Hits: 68
    Percentage Of Hits: 44

    08 - 15 Yds
    Uniformed Members Of Service: 40
    Number Of Shots Fired: 205
    Number Of Hits: 14
    Percentage Of Hits: 7

    16 - 25 Yds
    Uniformed Members Of Service: 7
    Number Of Shots Fired: 93
    Number Of Hits: 5
    Percentage Of Hits: 5

    Over 25 Yds
    Uniformed Members Of Service: 0
    Number Of Shots Fired: 0
    Number Of Hits: 0
    Percentage Of Hits: 0

    Not Stated
    Uniformed Members Of Service: 11
    Number Of Shots Fired: 36
    Number Of Hits: 2
    Percentage Of Hits: 6

    Totals ('05)
    Uniformed Members Of Service: 166
    Number Of Shots Fired: 616
    Number Of Hits: 154
    Percentage Of Hits: 25

    Officer Statistics

    Weapons Used By Officers In Shooting Incidents
    Revolvers: 4
    Semi Amutomatic Pistols: 156
    Ithaca 37 Shotgun: 1
    Colt M4: 0
    H&K MP5: 1
    Ruger Mini-14: 0
    M24 Rifle: 0
    Non-Standard Weapon: 4

    Shooting Incidents (Defense Of Self/Others)
    Shooting Incidents (Defense Of Self/Others): 43
    Total Number Of Officers Who Fired: 64
    Total Number Of Shots Fired: 196
    Total Number Of Hits: 59
    Percentage Of Hits: 30 percent
    Shots Fired Per Incident: 4.6
    Shots Fired Per Officer Per Incident: 3.1

    Shooting Incidents (Dogs)
    Shooting Incidents (Dogs): 32
    Total Number Of Officers Who Fired: 35
    Total Number Of Shots Fired: 93
    Total Number Of Hits: 58
    Percentage Of Hits: 62 percent
    Shots Fired Per Incident: 2.9
    Shots Fired Per Officer Per Incident: 2.7

    Shooting Incidents (Gunfights)
    Shooting Incidents (Gunfights): 16
    Total Number Of Officers Who Fired: 35
    Total Number Of Shots Fired: 276
    Total Number Of Hits: 23
    Percentage Of Hits: 8 percent
    Shots Fired Per Incident: 17.3
    Shots Fired Per Officer Per Incident: 7.9

    Shooting Incidents (Accidental)
    Shooting Incidents (Accidental): 24
    Total Number Of Officers Who Fired: 24
    Total Number Of Shots Fired: 25
    Total Number Of Hits: 10
    Percentage Of Hits: 42 percent
    Shots Fired Per Incident: 1.04
    Shots Fired Per Officer Per Incident: 1.04

    Shooting Incidents (Suicide And Attempted)
    Suicide (2), Attempted (1): 3
    Total Number Of Officers Who Fired: 3
    Total Number Of Shots Fired: 4
    Total Number Of Hits: 4
    Percentage Of Hits: 100 percent
    Shots Fired Per Incident: 1.3
    Shots Fired Per Officer Per Incident: 1.3

    Shooting Incidents (Other)
    Other: 5
    Total Number Of Officers Who Fired: 5
    Total Number Of Shots Fired: 22
    Total Number Of Hits: 1
    Percentage Of Hits: 5 percent
    Shots Fired Per Incident: 4.4
    Shots Fired Per Officer Per Incident: 4.4

    2005 Firearms Discharge Incidents

    Subject Armed With
    Gun, Fired At Police
    2004: 14
    Percentage: 13 Percent
    2005: 16
    Percentage: 13 Percent

    Gun, Fired Not At Police
    2004: 4
    Percentage: 3 Percent
    2005: 9
    Percentage: 7.3 Percent

    Gun, Did Not Fire
    2004: 13
    Percentage: 12 Percent
    2005: 22
    Percentage: 18 Percent

    Imitation/Simulated Gun
    2004: 6
    Percentage: 5 Percent
    2005: 6
    Percentage: 5 Percent

    Vehicle
    2004: 3
    Percentage: 2 Percent
    2005: 0
    Percentage: 0 Percent

    Other Weapon (Indicate)
    2004: 3
    Percentage: 2 Percent
    2005: 0
    Percentage: 0 Percent

    Physical Force/Furtive Movement
    2004: 5
    Percentage: 4 Percent
    2005: 5
    Percentage: 4 Percent

    Mistaken Identity
    2004: 0
    Percentage: 0 Percent
    2005: 0
    Percentage: 0 Percent

    Suicide
    2004: 4
    Percentage: 3 Percent
    2005: 2
    Percentage: 1.6 Percent

    Attempted Suicide
    2004: 1
    Percentage: 1 Percent
    2005: 1
    Percentage: 0.8 Percent

    Accidental Discharge
    2004: 27
    Percentage: 25 Percent
    2005: 24
    Percentage: 19.5 Percent

    Destroy Animal
    2004: 26
    Percentage: 23 Percent
    2005: 32
    Percentage: 26 Percent

    Unauthorized (Intoxicated, Domestic)
    2004: 5
    Percentage: 4 Percent
    2005: 5
    Percentage: 4 Percent

    The report can be found at; http://wcbstv.com/local/local_story_142133035.html

    - Janq
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    "A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing


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    Thanks, Jang. Those are some good stats.

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    Well the percentages were pretty good against dogs, but the suicide category was a solid 100%. Take that out of the global list and see the global hit ratio go down even more.
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    Shooting Incidents (Gunfights)
    Shooting Incidents (Gunfights): 16
    Total Number Of Officers Who Fired: 35
    Total Number Of Shots Fired: 276
    Total Number Of Hits: 23
    Percentage Of Hits: 8 percent
    Shots Fired Per Incident: 17.3
    Shots Fired Per Officer Per Incident: 7.9

    Shooting Incidents (Accidental)
    Shooting Incidents (Accidental): 24
    Total Number Of Officers Who Fired: 24
    Total Number Of Shots Fired: 25
    Total Number Of Hits: 10
    Percentage Of Hits: 42 percent
    Shots Fired Per Incident: 1.04
    Shots Fired Per Officer Per Incident: 1.04


    So the officers are better at hitting something accidentally than when aiming? What is worse, since it is accidental, the thing hit was probably either themself, an unwarrented suspect, or a fellow officer!

    I would bet that the numbers of Accidental shootings is actually VERY underreported. I know from family that was in the NYPD that accidental shots where nobody is hit were coverred up if at all possible.

    The tripling of shots fired in gunfights while over a 50% reduction in accuracy in those gunfights I find troubling, especially in such a densely populated area as NYC. I am sorry but the fire to slidelock syndrome in NY is NOT good. I don't care if one can empty the weapon in a couple seconds, the question is SHOULD THEY.

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    That's not very encouraging - glad I don't live in New York - and that's got nothing to do with the stats - LOL!
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    This is alarming not just for New Yorkers but for law enforcement officers in general everywhere.
    Considering the budget that the NYCP has and it's functional percentages are as low as this then one has to wonder about other large cities and for that matter small less well funded departments as well.

    As based on this in NYC if you are being shot at by a single LEO your odds are best & great if you stand still awaiting him to go to to slide lock, then run. If engaged by multiple LEOs then run first as odds are great they will fire on you multiply and miss or hit something if not someone else.

    New Yorkers should be up in arms toward this, literally.

    - Janq
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    does NYC still use Glocks with the 12 pound trigger spring? If so, that is why they can't hit anything. Except themselves during an NG,of course.

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    Are there any per capita stats? Did the overall population of the NYPD increase or decrease from '04 to '05?

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    Boy, if ever there was proof of the need for a concealed carry law, this is it. It never ceases to amaze me that people who, by all indications, are very intelligent, are anti gun. You would think that someone with enough savvy to acquire millions of dollars and attain high political office (Bloomburg) could see the obvious.
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