Mexicans or Terrorists? The Battle for Baldwin Park

Mexicans or Terrorists? The Battle for Baldwin Park

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    Mexicans or Terrorists? The Battle for Baldwin Park

    I received this via email and thought it would make good reading for those of us who never get on the front lines of these battles. From my own experience I don't see American flags in Mexican neighborhoods during our major holidays. We get our full of Mexican flags with politicians at other times of the year. It may be old stuff but the trend illegals is apparent.


    Mexicans or Terrorists? The Battle for Baldwin Park


    Dear Team America,

    We have a new report on our website:
    Mexicans or Terrorists? The Battle for Baldwin Park

    I cannot email it to you because it is loaded with transcripts,
    photos, and video clips. Many of them contain very offensive
    statements and angry racist slurs that were shouted at the
    Americans who dared to protest in Baldwin Park, California on May 14.

    Most email servers will not permit this type of foul language.
    You will need to go to our site to view the videos and read what
    recently took place in an American city.

    Many in our government and the media deny the existence of the
    militant Mexican plans for the reconquista of Aztlan [the
    take-over of the southwestern U.S. by Mexicans]. They say it is
    just another conspiracy theory. Others say it is only an idea
    supported by a few radical hispanics.

    What happened in Baldwin Park, is happening in cities across
    America. It is supported by all the major Mexican organizations
    including LULAC, LaRaza, and MALDEF. These groups get funding
    from corporations and American taxpayers. Elected officials
    attend their events and accept their awards. The media quotes
    them as sources in news reports. Yet they continue to deny that
    any of these groups are a danger to American citizens.

    Go to our site. Read the transcripts and view the videos. Ask
    all who continue to support open borders to take time to see the
    footage and then decide. Is it all a myth? Or is the reconquista
    of Aztlan well under way?

    http://www.teamamericapac.org/ta-gg-...dwinpark.shtml

    For the Cause, Linda

    PS -- See below a report from Joe Turner - SaveOurState.org - on
    the protest and an article on Aztlan by Frosty Wooldridge.

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    BALDWIN PARK, CA RIOT
    Joe Turner - Save Our State

    In the bizarre world that we live in, merely opposing illegal
    immigration and all the peripheral issues that go along with it
    is justification for being labeled a racist, bigot or a
    vigilante.

    In countless interviews, I am asked my thoughts when our
    opponents accuse us of being a racist organization. I constantly
    wonder why reporters simply regurgitate unsubstantiated claims
    and in the process perform the devil's bidding.

    Yet, as evidenced by today's happenings, it is so crystal clear
    that our opponents are projecting their bigotry and hatred onto
    us. Today, we saw some of the most vile hatred and bigotry
    expressed towards us by the Mechistas.

    Everything that we argued the monument stood for was reinforced
    by the hundreds of activists who opposed our presence in Baldwin
    Park. Numerous times we were told that this land is Mexico and
    that they were taking it back. Numerous times racist epithets
    were hurled away. One person even hurled a full water bottle at
    our side and sent one of our activists to the hospital with
    bleeding in the brain. Unfortunately, she is now in the
    intensive care unit and we are all praying and hoping for the
    best.

    What started as a rather peaceful and uneventful protest on our
    side ended in sheer hostility. The counter demonstrators were
    supposed to rally at the other end of the metrolink station, but
    proceeded to outflank the Baldwin Park Police Department and
    traveled through a local neighborhood so that they could
    formally confront us at the intersection allocated to us for our
    protest.

    In waves they came. Soon outnumbered 500-50 in a community that
    is 85% Hispanic, crowd control soon became an issue. Rants,
    chants and Mexican flags filled the air. They spit and a dragged
    and kicked an American flag over the ground. It is imperative to
    note that it was the only American flag displayed by our
    opponents.

    At the conclusion of the rally, a twenty year veteran of the
    force shared that today's rally was the most intense and largest
    he has seen in his career. And intense it was, for at one point,
    I was informed by BPPD that they could no longer ensure our
    safety. Mind you, there were upwards of 70+ officers on duty in
    riot gear. Emergency reserves were summoned from various local
    agencies. A police helicopter circled above for the entire
    duration. Officers with sniper rifles rested on a roof above.

    In fact, we were told that a credible source of intelligence
    suggested that violent attack on our group was in the making and
    that two hundred more demonstrators may be en route (which would
    have presumably overwhelmed the already taxed resources).
    Surrounded by hostile forces on all sides, we were evacuated by
    the police department to the police station one block away until
    the crowd dispersed.

    We did not hurl racist epithets or make bigoted hate-filled
    comments. We did not hurl objects at our opponents or resort to
    violence. Yet, we are racist vigilantes!

    It is of utmost importance to emphasize one singular point.
    Everything that we stated that monument stood for, embodied, and
    represented, was reinforced and confirmed by the actions of
    those opposing us today. To suggest that the monument doesn't
    reinforce the reconquista of Aztlan and hatred toward whites is
    simply delusional.

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    SWALLOWING A SCORPION FROM MEXICO
    By Frosty Wooldridge
    NewsWithViews.com - November 25, 2004

    They come to do the work that American's won't do. They come for
    a better life. They come in droves. Over 4,000 per night cross
    our Arizona borders. They number in excess of 15 million. They
    come from an endless line out of the Third World. What most
    Americans don't realize-they come to colonize and ultimately
    conquer our four Border States-but it doesn't end there.

    One look at California illustrates a successful invasion in
    process. What are the signs? Last year, according to demographic
    experts, 800,000 American citizens fled California. Why? Los
    Angeles stands as a clone of Mexico City. Slums, trash, disease,
    gangs, drugs, bankrupting hospitals, schools in chaos and about
    the only persons speaking English are Jay Leno and his guests on
    the Tonight Show. Over 9.2 million Mexicans transplanted
    themselves into the four Border States-and beyond-all the way to
    Maine, Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon, Georgia, North Carolina and
    Michigan.

    They are not assimilating, not speaking English, not respecting
    our laws, paying taxes, driving with licenses, carrying
    insurance or investing as American citizens.

    They lead 'Reconquista of Aztlan.' Mexico feels our four border
    states were stolen by the United States. They maintain a long-
    term plan for reconquering 'their' land. It's called 'El Plan de
    Aztlan.' Read about it.

    They write, "In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not
    only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal
    "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano
    inhabitants of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our
    forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating
    the determination of our people of the sun-- declare that the
    call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our
    inevitable destiny."

    Who are "they?" They are militant, cunning and growing leaders
    infiltrating the upper ranks of the government in California.
    U.S. House Representative Joe Baca of California works for
    illegal aliens by hamstringing the U.S. Border Patrol,
    supporting the Dream Act, Special Order 40 and other aspects
    that assist La Raza. It stands for-"For the race, everything,
    for those outside the race, nothing." Baca supports the Mexican
    American Legal Defense and Education Fund and several others.

    Talk about "racism!" What do you think will happen when these
    wonderful folks gain power? If you swallow a scorpion, you will
    get stung to death from the inside.

    Baca gave a speech, which borders on treason, "...it's a great
    feeling, you know, La Raza, it's about increasing our numbers
    because we're in a civil war." This is a man who swore to defend
    the U.S. Constitution but engages in another calling. He enjoys
    powerful backup in men like Art Torres, former California State
    Senator, Jose Gutierrez, Professor at the University of Texas,
    Mario Obledo founder of MALDEF and Armando Navarro, Professor of
    ethics at the University of California.

    Their website continues its subversion of America, "We are free
    and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called
    for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our
    hearts. Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the
    fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans.
    With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we
    declare the independence of our mestizo nation.

    Before the world, before all of North America, before all our
    brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a
    union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan."

    What you fellow American must understand is the growing fact
    that they mean business. California isn't that far away from
    where you are. You can see their numbers growing in your
    community. Your kids are suffering with their language chaos in
    your classrooms. They are undermining and under cutting
    America's working class.

    "We are committed to the idea and philosophy of El Plan de
    Aztlan, we can only conclude that social, economic, cultural,
    and political independence is the only road to total liberation
    from oppression, exploitation and racism. Our struggle then must
    be for the control of our barrios, campos, pueblos, lands, our
    economy, our culture, and our political life. El Plan commits
    all levels of Chicano society - the barrio, the campo, the
    ranchero, the writer, the teacher, the worker, the professional -
    to La Causa. Nationalism is the common denominator that all
    members of La Raza can agree upon."

    "We must control barrios, the pueblo, the campo, the land, the
    poor, the middle class, the professional-all committed to the
    liberation of La Raza...for the very young there will no longer be
    acts of juvenile delinquency, but revolutionary acts...our culture
    unites and educates the family of La Raza towards liberation...we
    must insure that our writers, poets, musicians, and artists
    produce literature and art that is appealing to our people and
    relates to our revolutionary culture. Our cultural values of
    life, family, and home will serve as a powerful weapon to defeat
    the gringo dollar value system and encourage the process of love
    and brotherhood...politically when we are a majority, we will
    control...La Familia de La Raza...presented at every meeting,
    demonstration, confrontation, courthouse, institution,
    administration, church, school, tree, building, car, and every
    place of human existence...creation of an independent local,
    regional, and national political party...a nation autonomous and
    free - culturally, socially, economically, and politically- will
    make its own decisions on the usage of our lands, the taxation
    of our goods, the utilization of our bodies for war, the
    determination of justice (reward and punishment), and the profit
    of our sweat...El Plan de Aztlan is the plan of liberation!"

    If that doesn't amount to treason within our own country, I
    don't know what does. This invasion manifests Third World
    Momentum. Mexicans can't run their own country with any degree
    of success, so, they overrun our country with their desperately
    poor, diseased and dispossessed. From historical perspective,
    you can expect that the new Aztlan will be much like the
    quagmire of Mexico City-transplanting itself into our country.

    Look in horror as Colonias "new neighborhoods" expand along the
    2,000-mile border with Mexico from Brownsville, Texas to San
    Diego, California. They feature no running water, sewage,
    electricity or roads.

    They house desperately poor, uneducated and diseased slums from
    Third World Mexico. According to the New York Times, in 1985
    they numbered 170,000. By 1995, they hit 500,000. In 2000, they
    reached 1,000,000. The Times predicted their numbers at 20
    million by 2021.

    Can you imagine the disease-terror complications to our U.S.
    population as their numbers grow into a monster much like Bombay
    or Calcutta?

    The next question is, why aren't our leaders arresting and
    prosecuting such men and women of Aztlan. Why is our Congress
    not enforcing our immigration laws against such an invasion?
    With California standing at three million illegal aliens, what
    happens when they reach 10 million illegals? What is the number
    in your state?

    How bad will it become? Short answer: much worse! Unless you
    take action.

    We need a 10-year moratorium on all immigration into the United
    States and we need U.S. troops on our borders. We need
    repatriation of illegals back to their own countries. Knowledge
    without taking action is worthless.

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    I'm not one to buy into or propagate conspiracy theories and hate mongering, but I honestly believe that the border issues we are now facing is the single most important security issue that we Americans are facing in the new millenium.

    My opinion is it's in my best interest and the best interest of all legal Americans to wage a campaign against the threat from the South, and to a lesser degree but still present, from the North. I support Team Americas efforts to clamp our borders shut! This is scary stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deke45
    I'm not one to buy into or propagate conspiracy theories and hate mongering, but I honestly believe that the border issues we are now facing is the single most important security issue that we Americans are facing in the new millenium.

    My opinion is it's in my best interest and the best interest of all legal Americans to wage a campaign against the threat from the South, and to a lesser degree but still present, from the North. I support Team Americas efforts to clamp our borders shut! This is scary stuff!
    I like your Kimber-must shooters are going to express your thoughts about not being hate mongering, they wear the white hats and are for fairness. TYhe dirty deeds are being done to us by those in charge of our well being and thats what is bad. I thought this was a good informative piece of email. It bothered me that a politician I gave money to is a bad guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FortyFive
    ITYhe dirty deeds are being done to us by those in charge of our well being and thats what is bad. I thought this was a good informative piece of email. It bothered me that a politician I gave money to is a bad guy.
    Yeah, that would PO me too! Thanks for posting the piece...just another example of things you would not normally hear or read from the news!

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    Geez - seen those video's? - holy moly - scary ain't in it! To think - those people are living in our midst. Decidely Isalmic flavor in odd places too - in essence - totally anti American.

    The hole should have been plugged long, long ago - and all the time the ''leak'' has been insidiously trickling on - or is that flood more like. Now we have all this crap.
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    All I have to say is to research "La Reconquista" also just Reconquista, it's an eye opener.

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    I don't know if people not in Arizona heard it but we recently had an organized "boycott" of the Arizona economy by a pro alien group here which flopped miserably. They are now calling for a permanent "boycott" of our economy. They are being asked to not support Arizona's tourism or buy from Arizona businesses of any kind. Funny and shows just how dense these guys are, they are pushing it from within Arizona, lol.

    It turned out the guy that is organizing this in the Phoenix area accepted over a million (yankee) dollars from the City of Phoenix to build a "day work center", which is a facility for illegal aliens to hang out and wait for people to come pick them up for day labor jobs.
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    The saga continues! I copied some information from the OC registor. Last night 5-25-5 the California Commission for Immigration Reform had its meeting in Garden Grove, Barbara Coe is chairwomen. The prime speaker was Jim Gilchrist of the Minuteman project. Gov Schwarzenegger praised Jim Gilchrist but President Bush calls the Minuteman project vigilantes. A van driven by one of the Coalition members struck down 2 protestors blocking the driveway. More like they fell in front of the van but the cops arrested him on suspicion of deadly assault. Question for Leoís here, why didnít the cops clear the driveway so vehicles could enter??? Why let an obvious event happen? The protestors broke windows in the van. The protestors are calling the Minuteman effort racist.
    I believe 99% of Americans donít give a hoot about illegalís. The politicians provide money and support to organizations that support illegalís. Law enforcement says hey we donít hold them if they are here illegally because we need their help to fight crime. What a bunch of crap, if the cops know of a problem that is illegal they will take care of it you can be sure so why overlook this problem??
    Oh so sorry to rant but we are sliding down that slope to a cesspool of hell for our country.
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