We left Islam
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We are ex-Muslims. Some of us were born and raised in Islam and some of us had converted to Islam at some moment in ...
June 11th, 2005 11:51 PM
We left Islam
We are ex-Muslims. Some of us were born and raised in Islam and some of us had converted to Islam at some moment in our lives. We were taught never to question the truth of Islam and to believe in Allah and his messenger with blind faith. We were told that Allah would forgive all sins but the sin of disbelief (Quran 4:48 and 4:116). But we committed the ultimate sin of thinking and questioned the belief that was imposed on us and we came to realize that far from being a religion of truth, Islam is a hoax, it is hallucination of a sick mind and nothing but lies and deceits.
What we believe:
Some of us have embraced other religions but most of us have simply left Islam without believing in any other religion. We believe in humanity. We believe that humans do not need to follow a religion to be good. All we need to follow is the Golden Rule. All we have to do is to treat others they way we expect to be treated. This is the essence of all the goodness. All good religious teachings stem from this eternal principle. This is the ultimate guidance humanity need. This is the Golden Rule.
Why Mohammed was not a prophet:
One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life.
He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad's life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives and their right hand possessions (Quran 33:50) He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way. Muhammad was a narcissist like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are
Why Quran is not from God:
Muhammad produced no miracles and when pressed he claimed that his miracle is the Quran. Yet a cursory look at the Quran reveals that this book is full of errors. Quran is replete with scientific heresies, historic blunders, mathematical mistakes, logical absurdities, grammatical errors and ethical fallacies. It is badly compiled and it contradicts itself. There is nothing intelligent in this book let alone miraculous. Muhammad challenged people to produce a Surah like it or find an error therein, yet Muslims would kill anyone who dares to criticize it. In such a climate of hypocrisy and violence truth is the first casualty.
What is our goal?
We are apostates of Islam. We denounce Islam as a false doctrine of hate and terror. However we are not against Muslims who are our own kin and relatives. We do not advocate hate and violence. Muslims are the main victims of Islam. Our goal is to educate them and let them see the truth. We are against Islam and not the Muslims. We strive to bring the Muslims into the fold of humanity. Eradicate Islam so our people can be liberated, so they can prosper and break away from the pillory of Islam. We would like to see Islamic countries dedicate more time to science and less time to Quran and Sharia. We would like to see them prosper and contribute to human civilization. We would like to see the draconian laws of Islam eliminated and people are treated humanely. We strive for freedom of beliefs, for equality of gender and for oneness of mankind.
Mankind's biggest challenge:
Today the humanity is facing a great danger. Islamic fundamentalism is on the rise and the hatred is brewing in the minds of millions of Muslims. This hatred must be contained or there would be disastrous consequences. We believe that the education is the only answer. Muslim intellectuals must realize that Islam is a false doctrine and they must let the rest of Islamic world know the truth. Islam is a religion that thrives on the arrogant assumption that it is the most logical, the most scientific and the most perfect religion. While the fact is that it is the stupidest doctrine, the most backward and absurd belief. Once the truth about Islam becomes common knowledge, it will be weakened and the Islamic fanaticism will lose its fangs. Hundreds of billions of dollars are being expended to combat Islamic terrorism, yet no effort is made to contain the ideology behind this terrorism. It is our belief that Islamic terrorism will not be eliminated unless and until the ideology behind it is exposed and eradicated. This is what we intend to do.
June 12th, 2005 02:43 AM
Thanks. Very interesting site. Lots of information on there.
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June 12th, 2005 02:54 AM
I love to see that at least some of the Muslims are beginning to see things clearly. We can all hope it becomes a real movement....
Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.
June 12th, 2005 11:28 AM
I have long been dismayed at the apparent gullibility of so many when it comes to their religious ''beliefs'' - and I do not mean by that to deprecate anyone's chosen path.
Rather, I am aware that ''blind'' faith is or can be bad - particularly when as so often seems the case, per Islam - there is an apparent lack of questioning after indoctrination. No obvious attempt to question, analyze, seeking the real truth.
The essential core of a religion can be altruistic and acceptable to many on the outside but when fundamentalism creeps in - it distorts and all but re-writes the tenets such that they become in effect a whole 'nother religion.
Add then to that the fact that supposedly sentient beings become embroiled in the effects of what is almost mass hypnosis - the protagonists then capitalizing on the small minded folk's desire to always have to hate - something - whether it be those against their ''religion'' or simply people who are ''different''.
Once promulgated, this hatred becomes disease-like and and is readily promoted and expanded - which is where we are today. It is also near impossible to change, unless enough of those involved actually stop and think, step back - and try and apply some logical thought - apparently very few are able to do this, prefering continued blind acceptance.
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June 13th, 2005 11:30 PM
This article pretty much sums up the feelings of a friend of mine who used to be muslim.
He was exiled from his home in Iran when he questioned the religion. After making a decision he did the absolute worst thing a muslim could do...he turned to Christianity.
His brothers and father took it upon themselves to try to kill him(as required by the law) but were unsuccessfull in their attemps.He fled to the US where he has lived for over 20 years. He is a very outpsoken critic of all that the muslims have to offer and beleives that one day they will attemp to rid the world of all infidels...which is bascially anyone that is not a muslim.
June 15th, 2005 04:33 AM
I posted a link on my blog.
June 15th, 2005 07:43 AM
That, my friends, is what scares me about muslims. I know of no other religion that preaches this action. We are extremely vulnerable to this infestation here in the U.S. Our founding fathers could not have envisioned this when penning our freedom of religion.
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