Charges reduced in chase that killed 2 PBSO deputies

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    Charges reduced in chase that killed 2 PBSO deputies

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    By Luis Perez | Sun-Sentinel.com
    9:43 AM EST, December 21, 2007

    WEST PALM BEACH - Charges were reduced Friday morning against a man arrested in connection with the deaths of two Palm Beach County deputies last month.

    A judge set bail at $16,000 for Ernie Kirk Daley Jr. after his charges were reduced to grand theft, fleeing or attempting to elude a law enforcement officer, driving with a suspended or revoked license, and resisting without violence. Gone are charges of aggravated manslaughter of a law enforcement officer and manslaughter by culpable negligence.

    Daley was arrested Nov. 28, hours after Palm Beach Sheriff's Deputies Donta Manuel and Jonathan Wallace were killed during a chase near Pahokee.

    Manuel and Wallace died when Deputy Gregorio Fernandez, a canine deputy, slammed into them on a darkened State Road 715 as they tried to remove tire-deflating spikes from the road. Fernandez and other deputies were chasing a stolen car from Belle Glade. Prosecutors say Daley was one of the car thieves.

    Investigators later determined the two fallen deputies should have used a cord -- later found in one of their cruisers - to jerk the spikes off the roadway.
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    Hmm, should be a murder charge. Two people died as a direct result of the commission of a felony.

    And why did they not use the cord!?
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    A judge set bail at $16,000 for Ernie Kirk Daley Jr. after his charges were reduced to grand theft, fleeing or attempting to elude a law enforcement officer, driving with a suspended or revoked license, and resisting without violence.
    Without violence, except for running over two officers attempting to apprehend them. I guess we should feel lucky they were so non-violent in their crimes. I'm sure the families of the slain feel that way.

    Personal responsibility has sure gone down the flusher, these days. Even in the courtroom, it would seem. Though I don't have all the facts, this decision (I won't call it "judgment") doesn't sit right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Hmm, should be a murder charge. Two people died as a direct result of the commission of a felony.

    And why did they not use the cord!?
    That's probably why the DA dropped the felony murder charge - the defense weasel could make a reasonable case that not using the cord was contributory to the deaths.

    Totally sucks, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattLarson View Post
    That's probably why the DA dropped the felony murder charge - the defense weasel could make a reasonable case that not using the cord was contributory to the deaths.

    Totally sucks, IMHO.

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    Maybe... but you dont reduce charges based on what the defense might try to do. Thats just stupid. You charge them for the crime that was commited, and let the defense to their job.
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    Regardless of whether or not they used a cord, they died as a direct result of this idiot.

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    Maybe the Judge is using the UK system of justice

    where if you look at the facts, the officers in their duty to prevent illegal act put the criminals life in jeopardy and danger when they put down the tire-deflating spikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Maybe... but you dont reduce charges based on what the defense might try to do. Thats just stupid. You charge them for the crime that was commited, and let the defense to their job.
    Oh, I fully agree, and I'd never advocate reducing the charges.

    Cord or no cord, but not for the fleeing felon these two officers would not have lost their lives trying to stop him.

    My vote would be to fry his ass.

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    I understand where you're coming from Matt, I just want to know what the judge/prosecutor is thinking.
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    Win / loss ratio?

    I don't know for sure, but it certainly appears he/she had their priorities wrong.

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