Why attack an army base?

Why attack an army base?

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    Why attack an army base?

    This might seem like an obvious question (I have a penchant for the obvious) but in the thread "Terrorists target Army base in Arizona"

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=36373

    why are they attacking an army base? Wouldn't they have much more impact on a civilian target? Besides, people on an army base are well armed and can fight back. They would probably all be killed. Civilian targets aren't secure and would cause mass confusion, hysteria and maximum impact.

    Sounds like these guys aren't so bright.


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    Quote Originally Posted by exactlymypoint View Post
    This might seem like an obvious question (I have a penchant for the obvious) but in the thread "Terrorists target Army base — in Arizona"

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=36373

    why are they attacking an army base? Wouldn't they have much more impact on a civilian target?
    Well think of it like this, we call them cowards for attacking civilians all the time, kind of hard for their morale to be called cowards all the time, it would make a good example to their "comrades" to take out a hard target.

    Besides, people on an army base are well armed and can fight back. They would probably all be killed. Civilian targets aren't secure and would cause mass confusion, hysteria and maximum impact.
    Not exactly, the only people regularly armed with guns AND AMMO are the MPs, the rest of the areas have small guard detachments, but even them, they are guarding armories etc. and have limited ammo.

    Fight back? If they have a tactical nuke, chem agent, etc. what is there to fight back against? Maximum impact? If they were to pull of an attack and do damage against a secure, supposedly well armed Military Installation, what kind of impact would that have?

    Sounds like these guys aren't so bright.
    Preferred method of terrorist attack is suicide bomber...why would anyone think that they are bright to begin with?

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    Because nobody is armed on military bases except the barney fife dod losers they have running the gates now.

    All be killed? Haven't been on a military base lately have you?


    Go to army base, go into dorms, kill 30-40 troops in one shot.

    Not to mention these are muslim extermists who are bred from birth to die for their :god:

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    Thanks for the insights. I have never been in the military so I did not know they were so unarmed and essentially defenseless.

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    With all the publicity such an attack would get, the suicide bozo would probably get a few extra vigins, and maybe this time some would actually be female.
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    OPSEC anyone?

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    Shotdown if you are referring to the state of things on a military base, its not hidden at all, nor is it not something that isn't open source available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obxned View Post
    With all the publicity such an attack would get, the suicide bozo would probably get a few extra vigins, and maybe this time some would actually be female.
    The bad news is they would be nuns...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotdown View Post
    OPSEC anyone?
    yes please
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    Shotdown if you are referring to the state of things on a military base, its not hidden at all, nor is it not something that isn't open source available.
    Okay, Paladin...I'll bite: site some of those open sources, please.

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    OPSEC my butt. How about google

    Hmm lets see

    http://www.spfpa.org/MILITARYDIVISION.html


    http://www.eyeonwackenhut.org/index....B239CE6723F%7D

    http://www.eyeonwackenhut.com/index....1BD64AEAEF9%7D




    http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a
    cliff notes:
    a. Unit commanders will store privately owned weapons of soldiers residing in the barracks
    in the unit arms room IAW AR 190-11 unless they have provided the owner written
    authorization to store the weapon at the Sportsmen's Center or other location specified in Class E
    registration. Inventories and storage of privately owned weapons in unit arms rooms will be
    conducted under the same criteria required with military weapons (AR 190-11). This also
    applies to privately owned ammunition.


    b. Under no circumstances will privately owned weapons be taken to or maintained within
    the barracks area.

    . The storage of privately owned weapons in family, bachelor, officer, or NCO quarters
    (excluding those located in barracks) is authorized provided that appropriate safety and security
    measures are applied. Commanders are responsible for ensuring that weapons authorized for
    storage in quarters are properly secured and maintained IAW this regulation and AR 190-11.
    The following measures should be applied singularly or in combination to properly secure
    weapons-
    (1) Store weapons unloaded and separate from ammunition. Ammunition should be
    stored in a separate locked container.
    (2) Keep weapons out of reach or access to minor children.
    (3) Store weapons with a trigger guard and/or other locking mechanism.
    (4) Secure weapons in a locked gun cabinet and/or closet.
    (5) Store weapons with the bolt removed. Bolts should be stored in a separate locked
    container.
    d. Privately owned weapons will not be stored in vehicles.
    e. Privately owned weapons will not be taken to or maintained in work areas

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    and to add another not, if you think that our enemy doesn't have operatives that are enlisted, living among us and reporting back you are mistaken

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    heh heh heh

    I moved 17 firearms and their ammo into base housing from the arms room once... was that ever fun!

    don't bet on "everyone" being unarmed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    and to add another not, if you think that our enemy doesn't have operatives that are enlisted, living among us and reporting back you are mistaken
    I'll challenge that...you have proof of such or is that just speculation based on total personal opinion??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandit383 View Post
    I'll challenge that...you have proof of such or is that just speculation based on total personal opinion??

    Rick

    you are kidding me right?

    http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/556

    WASHINGTON, April 28 (Xinhuanet) -- A soldier from the 101st Airborne Division of the United States was sentenced to death Thursday night for a fatal grenade attack on his fellow soldiers days before the invasion of Iraq.

    A military jury at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, gave Sergeant Hasan Akbar the death penalty for killing two officers and wounding 14 others in Kuwait in 2003.

    The 15-person jury deliberated seven hours before returning thesentence. The same jury last week convicted Akbar of two counts ofpremeditated murder and three counts of attempted premeditated murder.

    Earlier Thursday, Akbar, 34, apologized for his action in a brief statement to the court.

    Akbar threw grenades into troop tents at his Camp Pennsylvania in Kuwait in an early March morning and then fired on soldiers in the ensuing chaos. Prosecutors said the attack was driven by Akbar's religious extremism.
    You think he is the only one?

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