January 26th, 2008 11:11 PM
Tennessee, Jump on This--All Others, Read and Heed: Bullet Coding
Bill Information for SB3395
Tennesseans, be certain to contact your state senators to oppose the above bill, the "Ammunition Accountability Act."
Some of the relevant language:
"(4) Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons of interest in gun crime investigations.
For purposes of this act, "coded ammunition" means a bullet carrying a unique identifier that has been applied by etching onto the base of the bullet projectile.
(a) All handgun and assault weapon ammunition manufactured or sold in the state after January 1, 2009, shall be coded by the manufacturer.
(b) No later than January 1, 2011, all non-coded ammunition for the calibers listed in this act, whether owned by private citizens or retail outlets, shall be disposed."
Here is a copy of the email I sent to my senator, Jim Tracy:
"Senator Tracy, I respectfully urge you to do everything possible to defeat the "Ammunition Accountability Act," SB 3395, sponsored by Senator Reginald Tate from Memphis. This bill, if enacted, would cause the price of ammunition to skyrocket in the state, if indeed any ammunition manufacturer were willing to sell ammunition manufactured to such an expensive and exacting (not to mention unproven) standard.* This bill is indeed nothing more than an end-run around both the United States and Tennessee Constitutions' provisions with regard to keeping and bearing arms. Indeed, perhaps the more appropriate title for this bill might be the "Tennessee Victim Self-Defense Denial Act."
"Such a standard of manufacture might make law enforcement acquisition of ammunition extremely difficult as well. On the other hand, to believe that criminals (who already are willing to break existing laws with severe penalties against murder, armed robbery, rape, and other heinous crimes) will not simply illegally obtain regular ammunition in other states and import such ammunition into Tennessee to further their criminal enterprise is laughable on its face. Again, I sincerely request that you expend every effort possible to defeat this dangerous, pernicious bill.
"I would like to receive your honest assessment of the likelihood of this bill becoming law during this General Assembly.
"Thank you for your service to your constituents, and to all citizens of Tennessee.
"* Given that all manufactured firearms ammunition of which I am currently aware, except for some exotic non-cased ammunitions, propel the bullet through the barrel and out of the muzzle of the firearm by virtue of the force of expanding, hot gas applying thrust to the base of the bullet, I must question if any current technology exists which will not prevent the marking proposed for the base of the bullet in this bill to become melted, defaced, or otherwise unreadable. I have heard of schemes which seek to etch a firearm's serial number onto a firing pin to mark fired casings (easily defeated by replacing with an after-market firing pin), but I have never heard of this "technology" before...."
I hope this has virtually no chance of passing anyway, but let's hasten its demise by contacting your senators:
Tennessee Senate Members
BTW, Senator Tracy is a strong supporter of the RKBA, NRA "A" rating.
January 26th, 2008 11:22 PM
Where do these stupid state reps get these crazy ideas? California relatives? Didn't Maryland abandon this similiar practice because it was expensive and ineffective? Can't anyone learn from Maryland's lessons?
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January 26th, 2008 11:32 PM
Stupidity knows no bounds.
Where do these stupid state reps get these crazy ideas?
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January 27th, 2008 12:12 AM
Why don't they code criminals?
January 27th, 2008 01:02 AM
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January 27th, 2008 10:19 AM
Hmmm.....This is actually an anti ammo stockpiling bill also. All your k's of ammo stocked up for shtf/gun control must be used or disposed of by 2011.
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January 27th, 2008 10:56 AM
This may border on the most asinine idea I've ever heard. It's time for manufacturers to put a stop to this kind of nonsense NOW. Every ammo manufacturer should make it clear to the State Legislature that if this bill passes, they will no longer sell ANY ammunition in the state and this includes sales to law enforcement departments.
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January 27th, 2008 11:26 AM
Evidently, from the sponsor of the discredited legislation in Maryland. From NRA-ILA website:
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January 27th, 2008 01:56 PM
January 27th, 2008 04:43 PM
...and the politicians, too!
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January 27th, 2008 04:54 PM
Besides all the obvious arguments it would be nice to get a response from the bill originator on calling them out on their stats.
A) It's new. They know it. We know it.
Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons
B) Seeing as it's new, how have they measured it's effectiveness?
C) Again, as it's new, how can one quickly identify persons when there aren't even any bullets "coded" in the state yet?
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January 27th, 2008 06:30 PM
Presumably, they would have to register each package of ammo to the original purchaser, who would then have to constantly monitor and guard each shell casing to make sure that it was never lost, stolen, or reloaded to be fired again by someone else and left at a crime scene. You would have to catch and somehow destroy or recycle every piece of brass. If you didn't, someone could pick it up off a range somewhere and toss them around a crime scene to throw the cops off their trail. Of course, the original purchaser would then be in a world of trouble being falsely blamed for a crime.
January 27th, 2008 06:56 PM
Evidently, these bills would require that an identifier be etched onto the base of the bullet.... Who knows how it would work from there?
Originally Posted by GPS
January 27th, 2008 06:57 PM
More idiocy - thought up by people you cannot think properly at all.
More attempt by the cerebrally disadvantaged, probably in effort to continue 2A erosion by stealth - by any means they can dream up - even if moronic.
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January 27th, 2008 08:16 PM
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