New for 2008, US Dept of State's Passport Card

New for 2008, US Dept of State's Passport Card

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    Post New for 2008, US Dept of State's Passport Card

    Was about to renew my US passport when I saw this USDOS update:

    U.S. PASSPORT CARD


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    Papers, please.


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    "There will be no personal information written to the RFID chip itself."

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    And so it begins, Citizens of America welcome to Europe where we have to have ID, something like this is the beginning of the end.
    before you know it, this thing will be a mandatory requirement...
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    Ok people, calm down.

    It is only valid for certain common travel to the US from our neighbors. It is to cut the costs of issuing all the people who cross the border regularly a full passport. Which is a big thing that a lot of people will lose. If I lived near the border or took Caribbean cruises this looks like a good deal. I can carry it in my wallet and I don't need that big passport. Also look at the costs, pretty cheap compared to a regular passport. But hey, if it is that onerous an invasion of your privacy by all means don't get one and don't leave the US. Pretty simple if you ask me. If you get a regular passport there is a barcode on it that they use now to verify your record with a database. The RFID just takes advantage of new technology that will save wear on the card for frequent travelers.
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    yeah sure right, more cool aid please.
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    Calm down people!!


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    I think it is a good idea...I'd sure like something to put in my wallet vice the bigger passport. Regardless...if you got a background check or served in the military...pretty sure the government knows all about you.

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    Ok, so maybe I wasn't clear. The bold text is key. As for the show us your papers, you already have to do that to enter the US legally only it is a big passport, not a credit card sized id card. I suppose you can go to a bordering country and try to re-enter illegally, but that is up to you.

    U.S. PASSPORT CARD APPLICATIONS ACCEPTED BEGINNING FEBRUARY 1

    U.S. citizens may begin applying in advance for the new U.S. Passport Card beginning February 1, 2008, U.S. Passport Card in anticipation of land border travel document requirements. We expect cards will be available and mailed to applicants in spring 2008.

    The passport card will facilitate entry and expedite document processing at U.S. land and sea ports-of-entry when arriving from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean and Bermuda. The card may not be used to travel by air. It will otherwise carry the rights and privileges of the U.S. passport book and will be adjudicated to the exact same standards.

    The Department of State is issuing this passport card in response to the needs of border resident communities for a less expensive and more portable alternative to the traditional passport book. The card will have the same validity period as a passport book: 10 years for an adult, five for children 15 and younger. For adults who already have a passport book, they may apply for the card as a passport renewal and pay only $20. First-time applicants will pay $45 for adult cards and $35 for children.

    To facilitate the frequent travel of U.S. citizens living in border communities and to meet DHS’s operational needs at land borders, the passport card will contain a vicinity-read radio frequency identification (RFID) chip. This chip will link the card to a stored record in secure government databases. There will be no personal information written to the RFID chip itself.
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    maybe wait a few weeks, before getting one of "these card's" then they might be giving away "patches", "badges", and "mulit-state permits" in addition to "the card".

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    This is more adventagous over the old way of my free birth certificate how???

    Sounds like more government spending with no added benefit. And more of a burden (albeiit a small one) on regular folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 500Mag View Post
    This is more adventagous over the old way of my free birth certificate how???
    For one thing, you can no longer enter the country with a birth certificate.


    Sounds like more government spending with no added benefit. And more of a burden (albeiit a small one) on regular folks.
    It is a very good benefit. I've always thought the bulky passports were difficult. Now, we can get these cards that you simly put in your wallet.

    And it is no burden at all. If you don't want one, don't get one.

    This discussion keeps popping up and I have not heard a single credible argument against identifying yourself when entering the country.

    I wonder if those that think it is a violation of their 'rights' prefer to simply open the borders to all comers.
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    Wow, don't you guys have something real to get worked up over? A smaller, cheaper passport for certain modes of international travel is somehow an infringement on your rights and/or privacy? Please...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfDefense View Post
    For one thing, you can no longer enter the country with a birth certificate.
    Understood. I can see how this is better than a full up passport for people only going between US and either Canada or Mexico. My main question is why the birth certificate was not good enough as per the recent (last year or two) change in the law. Where they that easy for people to forge?

    Only three short years ago I was allowed to walk across the Mexico border at Algodones w/ nothing but my DL.
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