NYPD getting TASERs
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June 12th, 2008 07:02 PM
What were NYPD officers doing in Jamacia?
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June 12th, 2008 07:35 PM
That's really funny...I hope... (Jamaica is a neighborhood in Queens, NY if you weren't joking.)
Originally Posted by XD 45
As far as sympathetic fire (AKA 'contagious shooting'), it is real and it can be a problem. When I was training as a LEO, I came from a military background. When a fellow trainee opened fire in a room-clearing exercise, I fired through an object concealing his target from me to help him put down the threat.
Turns out he was firing mistakenly. What I did wasn't wrong for a Marine in a war zone, but would DEFINITELY be wrong for a law enforcement officer. I'm glad I learned a lesson in a shoothouse rather than on the street. One of the drawbacks of being the good guy is having to accept some risk. LEOs (and armed civilians) should NOT be shooting at a target that they cannot positively identify as a lethal force threat.
Whether this was the case in the Bell situation or not is another story, but LEOs are and should be beholden to a high standard in the use of deadly force. Not saying they (we) shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt in situations that warrant split-second decisions in changing, confusing, threatening circumstances...however, firing just because someone else is firing crosses the line. It's a pretty natural human reaction, however, and you need some training to overcome it.
Edit: This is quite different than 10 officers all firing at someone that they can simultaneously identify as a threat. Although that's probably not *tactically* the best idea, there's no more legal or moral concern with it than with a single officer firing legitimately. Sympathetic fire refers to firing automatically/instinctively when a comrade fires, without an independent assessment of the situation and target.
Last edited by AgentX; June 12th, 2008 at 09:33 PM.
June 12th, 2008 09:14 PM
did you mean to have a "NOT" inserted between 'can' and 'positively'
Originally Posted by AgentX
(meaning it should read 'target that they can not postively identify'
if not, then it doesn't make sense
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June 12th, 2008 09:32 PM
Hah, yeah, sorry...bad editing there...will fix. Thanks.
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