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    I live 20 miles from the Mexico border and until you live here you don't realise how much crap goes on at the border with our agents hands being tied they get stuff thrown at them and fired at from mexico but can't return fire.Between the human traffickers and drug runners it's a war and the se guys will do anything to escape and get back across the border,then they flip off the pursuers.This is a disgusting travesty of justice and the US Attorney needs to be the one sitting in jail
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    Good God, What is Bush waiting for? It's not like it'll ruin his re-election. Pardon these guys and the accidental machinegun guy.
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    In matters such as this, in which Mr. Bush has categorically stated that he will not pardon Ramos & Compean, one must wonder why. Qui bono? Who benefits? Obviously, Bush and those at the highest levels benefit in some way. The questions that will never be answered in our lifetimes is: how? and why?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuparadigm View Post
    In matters such as this, in which Mr. Bush has categorically stated that he will not pardon Ramos & Compean, one must wonder why. Qui bono? Who benefits? Obviously, Bush and those at the highest levels benefit in some way. The questions that will never be answered in our lifetimes is: how? and why?.
    I agree.......there is MUCH more to this than will be made availiable to 'us'. Something needs to be done but how do you even begin to figure this mess out?
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    Shouldn't a full pardoning of these two men be one of the questions we ask the presidential candidates?

    Something to the effect of "Will you commit to granting a full pardon to these two men as the first act as President to demonstrate the new tone of your administration?"

    Maybe SCOTUS will hear this and end this travesty.

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    This just wrong in so many ways. The least we can do is write the White House, our Reps and Senators and demand this injustice be fixed.

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    I wonder, if elected, if McCain would grant the needed pardon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I wonder, if elected, if McCain would grant the needed pardon?
    I bet Obama would grant the pardon!
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    The Fix Was In!!!

    I don't know why. But the fix was in with this ridiculous administration and this case. Bush probably won't touch this at all, at best and with a major contribution to "The Bush Library" in his final days they may get a presidential pardon.

    These two guys got the shaft.

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    Sorry guys and gals, but they were rightfully convicted and need to do their time.

    You aren't getting the whole story from the media. Let's just say that they violated one major rule, THEY LIED and tried to cover up their actions.
    No, I don't want to see a pardon granted. I don't have a problem with someone making a mistake. I do have a problem with covering it up and lying about it. They are no different than the convicted criminals they are housed with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRN View Post
    Sorry guys and gals, but they were rightfully convicted and need to do their time.

    You aren't getting the whole story from the media. Let's just say that they violated one major rule, THEY LIED and tried to cover up their actions.
    No, I don't want to see a pardon granted. I don't have a problem with someone making a mistake. I do have a problem with covering it up and lying about it. They are no different than the convicted criminals they are housed with.

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    So let's say that they did lie. Point out one person that has pushed their convictions that hasn't. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be punished because they did F up, but 10 years??? They were scared like anyone would be after a shoot and made a mistake. Overall they are respectible public servants doing an impossible job and we should be thanking them instead of locking them up on the testimony of an illegal alien drug smuggler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRN View Post
    You aren't getting the whole story from the media. Let's just say that they violated one major rule, THEY LIED and tried to cover up their actions.
    If you were on the scene and are a BPA or an ACPA I'll respect your opinion. Otherwise, I won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRN View Post
    hey were rightfully convicted and need to do their time.

    You aren't getting the whole story from the media. They are no different than the convicted criminals they are housed with.
    I, at least, only know what I read in the news media about this case, so I actually have no definite personal knowledge of it. Even if Ramos and Compean were rightfully convicted, I have seen a person alleging herself to be an aide to a congressman (interested in the case) report that, like other convicted LEOs, they have been beaten by other inmates; they are serving their time in solitary confinement. Beside refusing to pardon them, she said, president Bush has not lifted a finger to get them sent to a "Club Fed".

    Of course the purported congressional aide could be a fake, but let's stipulate for the moment that report is true. BikerRN, do you think it appropriate that they spend their full sentences in solitary confinement? I don't.

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    10yrs for lying? Or, 10yrs for felonious violence committed on an innocent (aggravated assault, attempted murder, whatever)?
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