RCMP erred in using Texas Rangers, report says

RCMP erred in using Texas Rangers, report says

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    RCMP erred in using Texas Rangers, report says

    This was a real "Blonde moment" for the RCMP


    RCMP erred in using Texas Rangers, report says
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    The Associated Press

    August 28, 2008 at 8:04 AM EDT

    VANCOUVER — The RCMP contravened its own policy by allowing direct policing in British Columbia by Texas state troopers, the body that investigates complaints against the force says in a new report.

    During an investigation involving the troopers, the force also had one of its own members conduct an impaired driving probe without proper grounds, detain the motorist unlawfully and search his vehicle unlawfully.

    The findings are in a report released by the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP and sparked by a complaint from the B.C. Civil Liberties Association.

    RCMP Commissioner William Elliott accepted the findings and almost all the commission's recommendations involving the program called Operation Pipeline Convoy.

    The civil-liberties group took its complaints to the complaints commission in 2005, but a lengthy delay by the RCMP in responding to the 2006 interim report meant it took longer than expected for the final report to be released.

    In a letter to the commission, Mr. Elliott promised to ensure that the program was reviewed in keeping with a recommendation “to assess whether policing techniques shared and learned during these exchanges are fully compliant with Canadian law and the Charter.”

    He also agreed with a key recommendation that “foreign police officers are formally provided policing status if they are to be exercising policing powers in Canada.”

    The commission said that during the Operation Pipeline exercise, two Texas state troopers and two RCMP members stopped a car twice based on suspicion of criminal activity.

    “Troopers were involved in both stops of the motorist in question,” the report said, adding “Texas state troopers were engaged in direct policing, contrary to RCMP policy.”

    The report said that if the RCMP continues to engage in police exchanges it should formalize the status, such as by seeking status as special constable for foreign officers.

    The RCMP member who was found to have acted unlawfully said he was unaware that the first Mountie had legally stopped the car earlier. He acknowledged, however, that he was advised of the initial stop after he stopped the motorist.

    RCMP spokesman Sergeant Tim Shields said Operation Pipeline is still active but does not use foreign officers to stop vehicles.

    But he said U.S. police still share information.

    “We all know that a police officer from outside the country doesn't have the powers of a peace officer here in B.C.”

    He said the program has been successful in finding illegal drugs and firearms on Canadian roads.

    Foreign officers are now used only as observers, he said.

    Murray Mollard, executive director of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, said the RCMP program was designed to intercept suspicious vehicles that may be transporting drugs or drivers suspected of being impaired on drugs.

    He said the program focused on the Trans-Canada Highway and specifically the area around Hope, B.C., a two-hour drive east of Vancouver.

    “We had concerns about what are Texas Rangers doing stopping cars and engaging in active law enforcement in Canada?”

    Mr. Mollard was not completely satisfied with the commission's findings.

    “Unfortunately, though the commission substantiated a lot of our complaint, it didn't go that far as to say, ‘It's bad policy for the RCMP ... to use (foreign officers) to enforce the law in Canada.”

    They are not trained in Canadian law, and there's no accountability mechanism in place if they “misconduct themselves,” he said.

    Mr. Mollard and Paul Kennedy, chairman of the complaints commission, chastised Mr. Elliott for taking so long to respond to the interim report.

    “The delay was in excess of 18 months for a file in which the commissioner was in almost complete agreement,” Mr. Kennedy said.

    “Delays of this nature negatively impact both the effectiveness of any remedial measures and the perception of the complainant . . . and the public.”


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    Thats very disturbing. Do we allow "foreign observers" here as well?
    I dont even like the idea of U.S. police from outside my county being used where I live.

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    Seems like an exchange student program, but for Cops.
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    Sounds like OJT to spot drug traffickers by profiling and they got their fingers caught in the cookie jar
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    Idiots. Total idiots. Laws and procedures vary enough between parts of the US (and probably Canada), and the Texas Rangers are doing police work in a foreign country? Insane.

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    Hey, don't laugh, if we turned the Texas Rangers loose like we did in the old days, our border problems would be over very quickly.

    That's why they were known as "Los Tejanos Diablos" on the Mexican side of the river.....
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    one country ,one ranger
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    I don't have a problem with the exchange program, in fact I think it's great, but you would think that 2 or more grown men likely with a fair bit of experience behind them would know better, now if the Ranger had access to the shotgun or was armed to back up the Mountie and had to draw his gun to save the Mountie I would applaud him as a hero. But these guys should have known better and need sensitive parts of their anatomy slapped.

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