Question for LEO's re: enforcement

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    Question for LEO's re: enforcement

    Just curious...... a small town has two officers.... one for days, and one for nights. (true)

    Speed limits are posted, as a state highway runs thru town.

    Question....... does an officer have the leeway to NOT pull over a speeding vehicle, if he decides he just doesn't want to? Or, is he required (by virtue of the State installed speed limit signs) to enforce the speed limits ?
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    There is always officer discretion, but... it is the officers job to enforce all laws, not just the ones he feels like. IMO, I'd rather have my one officer on duty performing criminal patrol work rather than traffic enforcement.
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    I'd agree if the officer couldn't see both ends of town just by turning his head. Our town is 8 blocks by 14 blocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    The is always officer discretion, but... it is the officers job to enforce all laws, not just the ones he feels like. IMO, I'd rather have my one officer on duty performing criminal patrol work rather than traffic enforcement.
    In some small towns like the one he's talking about,usually the most serious crime they deal with is jaywalking,lol.But if it's something the officer constantly does you can try to document it and possibly videotape the cars speeding in relation to cars that are doing the speed limit .then present the evidence to the body of people that hired the cop
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    It doesn't matter how big of town you're in, you REALLY do not want the police to be enforcing every law 100% of the time. Those who think they want that are the first to complain when the police actually do it. They're the ones who want the law enforced on the other guy, not themselves.
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    Many Hard felons are caught from minor traffic violations. Case in point ,Ted Bundy. Just a thought to ponder.

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    Its sad to say it but a lot of LEOs on small police forces are under a lot of pressure to generate revenue for the town, to help pay for their salaries and raise money for the towns. They usually don't bother with the infractions with small fines, they go after the high dollar tickets - speeding.
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    We have 2 cops where I live. One works weekdays and the other only works weekends. At the town meetings they are constantly reminded to watch for traffic infractions.

    Ofcourse everyone in town takes it for granted this only applies to out of town folks. They wouldnt keep their jobs long giving townies tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raevan View Post
    Many Hard felons are caught from minor traffic violations. Case in point ,Ted Bundy. Just a thought to ponder.
    and Tim McVeigh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by raevan View Post
    Many Hard felons are caught from minor traffic violations. Case in point ,Ted Bundy. Just a thought to ponder.
    Some of my best felony arrests resulted from traffic stops, ie to name a few, 2 separate murderers, the largest seizure of liquid PCP ever taken off the road (4 gallons), 2 separate counterfeiters with a total of over $1 mil in funny money, several burglars, 44 kilo of coke, several hundred thousand dollars in drug money, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolyat63 View Post
    and Tim McVeigh...
    Darn it, you beat me to it! IIRC, he didn't have a tag on the getaway car. BTW, he had a CCW from Washington I believe, but Kentucky didn't reciprocate, THAT is why he originally went to jail. The cop noticed a "bulge".
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    Heavy traffic enforcement also will keep the no goodniks out of your town. In a town of only two LEO's this could be the best way of protecting the town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitaryPower View Post
    he had a CCW from Washington I believe, but Kentucky didn't reciprocate, THAT is why he originally went to jail. The cop noticed a "bulge".
    Why would Kentucky matter? He was stopped in Oklahoma.
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    Officers have the discretion to enforce or not enforce the law. They are subject to thier departmental policy upon doing so. If you are doing traffic and you know that the average speed that the travelers do is 70 in a 65 and you wait until you find a 95 MPH violation your passing up on less dangerous violation for the more dangerous speed. common sense.

    Traffic tickets are NOT a good source of revenue for an agency/city as the State usually takes a large part of the fine (if they cite under state statues)
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    Reasons for diligent traffic enforcement:

    1. Keeps accidents and the associated injuries, fatalities, and destruction of property down.

    2. As noted, helps keep the riff raff away.

    3. As noted, helps catch the riff raff who don't stay away.
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