This is a discussion on Another 'gun free zone'........the high seas! within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; AAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH! I know how to stop pirates..........ARM THE PREY!!!! It's so simple, but I doubt it will ever happen. What we get is a bunch ...
I know how to stop pirates..........ARM THE PREY!!!!
It's so simple, but I doubt it will ever happen. What we get is a bunch of hand wringing & a bunch of politicians saying 'We can't do anything to stop it!'..............
Just look at some of the stories:
US Admiral 'stunned' by pirates' reach
Iranian grain ship seized as Somali pirates hold world to ransom - Times Online
Video: Pirates make contact with owner of oil supertanker - Times Online
FT.com / World - Pirates seize another ship in Gulf of Aden
Danish oil ship briefly seized off Nigeria - Yahoo! News
Reuters AlertNet - Hong Kong grain ship hijacked by pirates - Xinhua
FT.com / World - Call for navies to seek out pirates? ships
Pirates anchor hijacked supertanker Sirius Star off Somalia coast | World news | guardian.co.uk
Just allow these freighters & tankers to be armed.....That's all it would take. Why is so hard to figure out?
Various navies could help, but just like Policemen....THEY CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ONCE!
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The problem with arming the commercial ships is that somewhere, somehow, the owners would have to hire trained people to operate the weaponry and repel the attacks. I don't think they can rely on their own crews for this--these are merchant ships, and the crews aren't trained for combat.
The other problem is landing at different ports of call with lots of guns, many countries won't allow that. You can almost do what you want on the high seas.
10,000+ merchant ships pass through there a year. We have fewer then 100 attacks a year; out of those maybe 20 hijackings? Which ship out of the remaining 9,900 do you fill to the brim with soldiers?
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everything is going to get worse, especially if the big 3 auto makers go belly up! It will send a ripple effect across the globe.
The pirates just tried to attack a Indian Navy Frigate, the Indians sank the pirate mothership, that should put a dent into the problem.
The more recent one like the oil tanker comes to mind. These numbnuts send out hundreds of millions of dollars in commodities and aren't willing to spend on a decent security team to have on board. They could easily offer 150k per head per cruise to say... a 6 man team all required to be former (insert group of choice here) and/or current members of (insert group of choice here) and given list of small arms of choice for the duration of the voyage. Problem solved.
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A coupla GE miniguns and a few ma deuces on board would make any pirate rethink his job security
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This is no different than individual self protection. You cannot rely on the police, (or Navy), to be there to protect you at all times. Your choice is to trust to luck or arm and protect yourself. Arm and train the crews, even on luxury liners. I heard that some luxury liners are using some kind of noise device to ward off pirate attacks. Yes, a loud beam of noise is aimed at the attacking boat(s). Less-than-lethal pirate deterrent. It actually seems to work but I would prefer killing the scum so they don’t attack another ship.
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You guys just don't get it. THEY DON'T CARE! It's the price of doing business. To arm the fleet would cost hundreds of millions of dollars (for each company) each year. They could also stop these hijackings by going the long way around Mauritius and Madagascar but they don't want to spend the extra fuel and time to avoid the trouble spots. Losing one out of 5000 ships is no big deal to them. These companies have insurance to cover their losses. That's what insurance is for! Many times it is a representative of Lloyds of London or a company like them that negotiates with the pirates to recoup the losses they are already going to pay in insurance payouts.
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