Agents used stun gun on pallbearer
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Agents used stun gun on pallbearer
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November 21st, 2008 04:01 PM
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Agents used stun gun on pallbearer
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From correspondents in North Carolina
November 21, 2008 03:58am
A SHERIFF'S official has apologised for plunging a funeral into chaos when undercover agents tried to arrest the dead man's son - and used a stun gun on him.
It happened as the coffin was being loaded into a hearse. The officers planned to quietly arrest pallbearer Gladwyn Taft Russ III.
Relatives said two deputies dressed in coats and ties grabbed Mr Russ and kneed him before using the stun gun.
Mr Russ' sister, Taffy Gause, said a deputy "was waving a gun at me and my mom and yelling to get back or he was going to shoot".
Mr Russ, 42, had failed to surrender after being charged with threatening his ex-wife, officials said. Following his father's death on November 11, Mr Russ agreed to surrender after the funeral.
When deputies approached Mr Russ on Saturday, he "went wild" and spat on the officers, chief deputy Ed McMahon said. Mr McMahon said the officers should have waited until after the service.
Mr Russ was charged with assault, resisting an officer, disorderly conduct and felony malicious conduct.
"Everybody was so scared. We thought it was a drug deal gone bad," said Ronnie Simmons, a pallbearer and Mr Russ' brother-in-law.
"We almost dropped the casket."
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November 21st, 2008 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
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"Everybody was so scared. We thought it was a drug deal gone bad," said Ronnie Simmons, a pallbearer and Mr Russ' brother-in-law.
Nice upstanding God-Fearing family undoubtedly.
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November 21st, 2008 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Nice upstanding God-Fearing family undoubtedly.

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November 21st, 2008 04:26 PM
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Something must be missing from the story (as if that would be surprising). An agreement was reached to take him into custody after the funeral was over, yet they Taser him as he's carrying the casket? Whassuupwiddat?
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Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
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November 21st, 2008 06:36 PM
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Mr Russ, 42, had
[previously] failed to surrender after being charged with threatening his ex-wife, officials said. Following his father's death on November 11, Mr Russ agreed to surrender after the funeral.
When deputies approached Mr Russ on Saturday,
he "went wild" and spat on the officers, chief deputy Ed McMahon said. Mr McMahon said the officers should have waited until after the service.
Nothing missing!
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"But if they don't exist, how can a man see them?"
"You may think I'm pompous, but actually I'm pedantic... let me explain the difference."
"Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything."
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November 21st, 2008 07:17 PM
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Obviously, the taser wasn't strong enough.
Sounds as if this guy is just another crime waiting to happen.
I'm sure his mother is proud of him.
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November 21st, 2008 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
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... he "went wild" and spat on the officers ...
Nothing missing!
I'd have been damned angry, as well, being interrupted and forcibly removed while carrying the casket of my own father after an agreement had been reached to surrender to the deputies on-site once the service had concluded.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
Explain: How does
disarming victims
reduce the number of victims?
Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

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November 21st, 2008 07:36 PM
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"EVERYBODY was scared...thought it was a drug deal gone bad"...
Sounds like the chromosomes are tight in that family. Guess they're used to drug deals going down at funerals.
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November 21st, 2008 07:40 PM
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I agree with ccw...bad timing and bad judgement, not to say the least, potentially putting others in harm's way. I won't even mention the sympathy points he garnered...
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November 21st, 2008 08:09 PM
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Nobody here knows the details. I'm sure the PD were standing by for the arrest as planned. Who knows what happened to make them advance sooner? Doesn't sound like the Cleaver family there.
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November 21st, 2008 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Nobody here knows the details. I'm sure the PD were standing by for the arrest as planned. Who knows what happened to make them advance sooner? Doesn't sound like the Cleaver family there.
Huh...I'd reread the article. Even the Deputy Chief apologized...seems pretty clear to me.
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November 21st, 2008 08:41 PM
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Regardless of the apology, which seems merited, when he spat at the officers, case closed.
Facts may be missing, but based on the article, who gives a darn. He previously failed to "show" after a prior agreement to turn himself in.
I'm sure the guy was mad, maybe rightfully. But. his behavior was not warranted.
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"But if they don't exist, how can a man see them?"
"You may think I'm pompous, but actually I'm pedantic... let me explain the difference."
"Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything."
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November 21st, 2008 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Huh...I'd reread the article. Even the Deputy Chief apologized...seems pretty clear to me.
Rick
I'd be sorry it happened that way too, but I'm sure there was a reason for it. If he wanted to be able to attend things like funerals, he shouldnt have been a criminal.
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November 21st, 2008 08:42 PM
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Again, nobody here knows the details. The Chief is a politician. He's doing what his office thinks is politically necessary. They may very well stepped on their tools, but we don't know. I've certainly seen PD overreact before. But my gut tells me there is more here than we know.
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November 21st, 2008 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
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(SNIP) But my gut tells me there is more here than we know.(/SNIP)
Agreed. Either way, the whole situation sounds like it turned out bad
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