Feds, Do They Always Carry In Condition 3 ?

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    Feds, Do They Always Carry In Condition 3 ?

    I have noticed that the Feds on all ofthe TV shows (all networks)and the movies are carrying in Condition 3. I say this because they are always racking their slides right after drawing from holster. I know they have technical advisors, and would probably be briefed in departmental procedures but they all do it. Is this normal procedure for Federal Agents to carry in C3? Many of the PD detectives and CSIs also rack their slides on the draw. Again, is this normal procedure?

    No guesses on this one, I'd really like to hear from people in the business (LEO or TV) if this is the norm.
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    If it's on TV is GOTTA be real!!
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    I'm sure it's for the dramatic effect. The LEOs I know mostly carry Glocks with one in the chamber. Just my .02

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    They rack the slide on TV, so the audience can see the BG crap his pants!!

    But really all the LEO I know carry Condition 2. 1 in the chamber, hammer down.
    Not many carry a 1911 anymore.
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    Anyone notice that when they do rack the slide it sometimes sounds like a single action army colt 45 being cocked? I wish I could make mine sound like that.

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    Everybody on TV carries that way, unless it's a Glock, then you can hear them cock it when they draw.

    I'm just a small town LEO but everything I carry is ready to rock.

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    U. S. Border Patrol Agents always carry ready to fire and safety on.

    This bit about drawing and racking the slide to chamber a round is the preferred Israeli method of carry; that's the way they teach it over there. In this country, you'll be hard-pressed to find a Fed who does it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlr1m View Post
    Anyone notice that when they do rack the slide it sometimes sounds like a single action army colt 45 being cocked? I wish I could make mine sound like that.

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    hell no!!! that's all dramatic theatrical crap! I work with ICE (Immigrations and Customs Enforcement) and FPS (Federal Protective Service) and they are all ready to rock!

    You got to love it on the shows when one guy has a gun to another guys head, then the guy holding the gun Yells, "I'm Serious" or (something like that) as he racks the gun!!!! I laugh everytime!!!
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    No, we Feds don't all carry in Condition 3.

    Let me retract that.....I don't know of any Feds that do, regardless of agency or job.

    I know for a fact (having been trained there) that FLETC does not train personnel to carry in Condition 3; at least not to agents attending the Criminal Investigative Training Program (the GS-1811 basic agent course) or Inspector General Academy.

    I also know for a fact the FBI does not train and/or carry in Condition 3; that is true for agents carrying the standard issue Glock or FBI agents in their SWAT teams carrying SA 1911's.
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    Just as a point of reference, because your question has already been answered. I live just a few blocks from the Denver Federal center and on occasion see armed DHS folk in the nearby 7-11. They carry Sig P226's with the funky DAK (DAO with two resets on the trigger). My assumption is that this design and this gun is *designed* to be carried with one in the pipe. It's also been adopted by the Coast Guard.
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    It's the movies, guys...ever notice that several times in different scenes...they 'rack' again...just to check before going in?
    I don't know which is more corny...shooting 57 times before a reload, or racking 4 times without a shell being ejected.
    Let's give our Fed/PD more credit than what we see in the movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjh2657 View Post
    I have noticed that the Feds on all of the TV shows (all networks)and the movies are carrying in Condition 3.
    You answered your own question! But not in real life!

    I'm sitting here trying to remember, One show I don't think the rack the slides on is NCIS...... I'll have to pay more attention.
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    Of course, it can be a lifesaver when the bad guys do this. I point to Detective Martin Riggs, who would have died in the Christmas tree lot in the first 10 minutes of Lethal Weapon had the bad guy had one in the chamber of his shotgun.
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