As porous as the border is, why even mess with a passport?
This is a discussion on Terrorists Getting Mexican Passports within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Newsmax.com - Terrorists Getting Mexican Passports? Friday, January 30, 2009 7:53 PM By: Rick Pedraza An Americas Report news investigation shows individuals posing a terror ...
Newsmax.com - Terrorists Getting Mexican Passports?Friday, January 30, 2009 7:53 PM
By: Rick Pedraza
An Americas Report news investigation shows individuals posing a terror threat to the United States are increasingly obtaining access to stolen or doctored passports, which then can be used to obtain visas to enter the U.S. with the purpose of carrying out terrorist attacks.
The report notes several instances where this has already happened:
# Four of the 19 hijackers from 9/11 carried genuine Saudi passports that had been "manipulated in a fraudulent manner" to obtain genuine U.S. visas.
# In 2005, four individuals were charged with smuggling dozens of Iraqis and Jordanians into the U.S. through South America beginning in 2001 on stolen European passports.
# In 2007, an NBC News investigation uncovered a black market for stolen passports in Latin America.
# Last week, three Afghani Muslim men were caught carrying genuine stolen Mexican passports with their pictures and data while en route to Europe.
The report notes that Latin America, which now has a large Hezbollah presence, especially in Argentina, Venezuela, Paraguay and Brazil, is increasingly becoming the point of entry because documents are easily obtained.
In addition to those countries is Nicaragua, which has a large Iranian presence. Iran also has a huge embassy in Managua “where diplomats enjoy immunity and the full support of President Daniel Ortega,” the report finds.
The Venezuelan government, lead by President Hugo Chavez, also has issued passports and official documents to members of Hezbollah and Hamas, whose cause Chavez believes in.
Experts agree South America has become a place of preference for terrorists that want to travel to the United States, making it imperative for U.S. agencies responsible for protecting the American public to become more vigilant.
“It now seems that any person wanting to attack this country could use doctored or manipulated passports or could simply travel to Mexico and pay a Coyote to illegally cross the border,” the report concludes. “It’s just a matter of time, if it has not already happened, before a terrorist, is able to get to the United States using a stolen, doctored passport.”
As porous as the border is, why even mess with a passport?
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they don't need a passport if they can smuggle in tons of cocaine they can smuggle in tons of explosives or chemical biological weapons,all they need is an accomplice to meet them in a remote part of arizona desert and pick them up when they are driven there and dropped off
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Fraudulent passports have been a problem since passports came about. Just like paper currency, within days of tamper resistant/counterfeit resistant documents being release, counterfeiters have defeated the changes made.
As HotGuns and dukalmighty already said, the flow of illegal's and contraband is already staggering to the imagination and without a total lock down of our boarders will continue, regardless of what the government tries to do.
In Gaza, the border with Egypt is approximately 2.5 miles wide. It has been reported that there were more than 200 smuggling tunnels. Let's see. We have a 2000 mile border. At 100 tunnels per mile ---you get the idea.
And when all else fails, HANGGLIDERS!!!
Yeah, this report seems to be a non-significant issue. Denoting it as a "Mexican" issue in the title is misleading given the report notes passport issues with multiple nationalities, not just Mexico.
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While reading the Constitution again, yesterday, I realized that Texas and Arizona could lawfully declare war on Mexico without the consent of the United States. That restriction doesn't apply when a state's actually been invaded.
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Mexican passports being used by terrorists.....this is troubling but it is hardly like we didn't see this coming....like 5 years ago. But the border still seems to be as easy to simply walk across as it always was in a lot of places.
What is it going to take to wake this country up and see that we are living on borrowed time with the Southern border?
There are genuine mexican passports? You could knock me over with a feather.# Last week, three Afghani Muslim men were caught carrying genuine stolen Mexican passports with their pictures and data while en route to Europe.
Passport thief while abroad has always been a problem..
Just last summer while visiting the Dominican Republic, while staying at a 5-star world class resort, someone stole our beach bag, and used the key in the bag to ram shack our room.
Interesting is a $500 point and shoot camera was left on the counter, and nothing was stolen.
Because our money and passports where locked in the room safe, and that key was in my swimsuit pocket.
So, that leads me to believe they where only after cash or our passports.
This is a non-issue, really. There are plenty of people who hate the US who have legitimate passports. Timothy McVeigh didn't need a passport to drive down to Oklahoma....
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Crossing the border has been popular for a very, very long time. Since the invention of the visa and passport, there have been illicit crossings. Until the death of the visa and passport, there will be illicit crossings. It's a certainty that some of those will have been, and will continue to be, folks bent on terrible crimes. What else is new.
Doesn't surprise me that falsification of documents is happening around the world. Of course it's happening in this hemisphere. What would really surprise me is if it were discovered that no government employee, hack or politician were in on it.
But, at the end of the day, it's only one small precaution. Once in, a person isn't checked with any great frequency. Thus, like suggested with McVeigh & crew, moving around to your target is near child's play.
The only passport impossible to forge is the one never issued. Anything that has a way of actually working can always be defeated.
Drugs, criminals, etc will always get through. The question is, how to stop it at the source (if possible, which its probably not in this case), and also what are you going to do about it? Especially if you live on the border, stay armed and vigilant.
Until it's too late and we are banning together with High School kids in the mountains yelling Wolverines. Then we will look for someone to blame, and there will be a laundry list of names that come up.
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