How to help neighbor kid prepare for Marines?
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February 9th, 2009 11:49 AM
How to help neighbor kid prepare for Marines?
I own a duplex and rent the other side to tenant family. They have a nice kid, 16 years old. He keeps saying he wants to join Marines as soon as he finishes High School. He has consistently said this for over a year now, so I'm starting to believe him. This kid is already in fabulous physical shape, he wrestles and plays football and runs like a deer. I know he won't have any trouble getting through boot camp.
Anyway, I've been shooting (competitively and casually) for 40 years now and I'd like to help him get started in learning to shoot and handle firearms. I'm looking for advice here, as to how to introduce him to shooting. I don't want to get him into any "bad habits", that is - things the Marines might not like. For instance, I used to do a lot of IPSC shooting. Obviously, I'm not gonna start him off in fast-draw and double-taps. But would it EVER be appropriate for me to show him this style of handgun shooting?
Or should I simply take him to rifle range only and practice gun safety, setting sights and marksmanship and such?
All comments welcome. I'm looking to help this kid out.
'Be careful, even in small matters' - Miyamoto Musashi
February 9th, 2009 11:53 AM
Pistolcraft in the Military is only taught on a limited basis while it should be learned, his rifle will be his primary tool and that's what should be focused on.
Drill in the safety rules, weapons condition codes etc. I need to double check, but I think I all ready packed my last range book, if not I'll scan some pages for you.
Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
Never point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot
Keep your weapon on safe until you are ready to fire
Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you intend to fire
Drill in the basic fundamentals, breathing, trigger control, sight alignment, sight picture.
All those fundamentals will transfer to pistol shooting, but it will be easier to start with the rifle as it's just easier to shoot.
February 9th, 2009 11:59 AM
The best way to help anyone prepare for the Marines is to teach them to do as they're told to do.......immediately, enthusiastically, and with their mouth shut.
If he's in good physical shape and can do that, he'll be well on his way to becoming the platoon honor man!
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
February 9th, 2009 12:10 PM
Make him watch the movie full metal jacket LOL
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February 9th, 2009 12:31 PM
To add on to JD's advice, dont teach him anything other than the basic safety stuff. You will be doing him a huge disservice in trying to teach him how to shoot. Being a military Pistol craft guy myself, the worst shooters are the ones who were taught by "grandpa in the back yard" They have a lot of bad habits to break, and no real skill. The Marines have their own way of doing things, let them do what they do best.
Military service is little more than a mind game. If he is mentally strong, he'll do fine no matter his physical condition. (but being in shape does make things a lot easier.)
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February 9th, 2009 04:07 PM
+1 Boot Camp is a test of fortitude, first and foremost. Physically you come up to speed in days or maybe weeks but the mind games that is what really takes a toll. As far as shooting the USMC will make sure he can handle a rifle.
Originally Posted by SIXTO
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February 9th, 2009 06:27 PM
I'll go against the grain here. I'd teach him basic sight picture shooting using an AR. A lot of young guys have only used scopes and have no idea on how to use a peep.
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February 9th, 2009 06:32 PM
+1. Couldn't have said it much better.
Originally Posted by JD
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
February 9th, 2009 06:55 PM
For me the head games was the worst, physical training not so much.
My recommendation is teach him how to thoroughly clean an AR so it's spotless, that will go a long way in keeping the DI heat off.
While people are saying "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, ... and they will not escape. 1Th 5:3
February 9th, 2009 09:49 PM
Among what else was already posted...
Push ups and proper form lol
and attention to detail. The stupidest little things will get you un needed attention from the DI's.
Pistols are very limited, basically just Gun teammembers ect. So anything you can teach him about breathing, sight picture, proper positioning, tactical reloading both ar and pistol would get him ahead of the curve. You can do alot by roughing him in, they will fine tune him.
February 9th, 2009 10:02 PM
Tell him to pay attention to detail. Everything he needs to know will be taught to him.
Originally Posted by SIXTO
February 9th, 2009 10:10 PM
I'd take a little bit from every post here - all excellent suggestions. Has he talked to any actual Marines (besides a recruiter)? That might be good for him too. Maybe expose him to the other branches of the military? I'm former Air Force so I'm a bit partial, but all branches of the military are just as important. If he is in that great of shape, maybe Special Forces, Seals, Para Rescue would tempt him.
I would, first, talk to his parents and make sure they don't mind you doing this. They could have strong feelings against his joining the military - or against guns or...?
If his parents give him you the thumbs up, then go for it.
Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? -- Patrick Henry
February 9th, 2009 10:24 PM
Yell a lot, especially if you are real close. If he's not close to you, make him get close so you can feel your breath bounce off his face while you are yelling.
Seriously, Tiger Woods ask his dad to make him a great golfer. His dad ask if he was serious. He said he was. His dad was retired military. He worked on mental toughness with Tiger first and foremost. The rest, as they do so like to say, is history.
February 9th, 2009 11:09 PM
Teach him how to drink like a fish... I once took a friend of mine and two of his friends (all three of them Marines) out to a bar when they were on leave. I gave the credit card to the bartender and said "all of their drinks are on me". I think Im still paying that bill off But it was worth every penny.
February 10th, 2009 12:04 AM
Tell him to go Army, and since he is there go Infantry. and since He's doing that he should Go Airborne to get the girls.. it works lol
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