Iowa National Guard to practice house to house gun searches!! (MERGED)
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http://www.carrollspaper.com/main.as...451&TM=55111.9
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February 20th, 2009 05:55 PM
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Iowa National Guard to practice house to house gun searches!! (MERGED)
Borrowed this from another site. Kinda scary. These are voluntary, but practice makes perfect......for when they do not have to be.
http://www.carrollspaper.com/main.as...451&TM=55111.9
Guardsmen to conduct urban training at Arcadia in April
By BUTCH HEMAN
Staff Writer
The Carroll National Guard unit will train on urban military operations by holding a four-day exercise at Arcadia.
The purpose of the April 2-5 drill will be to gather intelligence, then search for and apprehend a suspected weapons dealer, according to Sgt. Mike Kots, readiness NCO for Alpha Company.
Citizens, law enforcement, media and other supporters will participate.
Troops will spend Thursday, April 2, staging at a forward operations base at Carroll. The next day company leaders will conduct reconnaissance and begin patrolling the streets of Arcadia to identify possible locations of the weapons dealer.
The primary phase will be done Saturday, April 4, when convoys will be deployed from Carroll to Arcadia. Pictures of the arms dealer will be shown in Arcadia, and soldiers will go door to door asking if residents have seen the suspect.
Soldiers will knock only at households that have agreed to participate in the drill, Kots noted.
"Once credible intelligence has been gathered," said Kots, "portions of the town will be road-blocked and more in-depth searches of homes and vehicles will be conducted in accordance with the residents' wishes.
"One of the techniques we use in today's political environment is cordon and knock," Kots explained. "We ask for the head of the household, get permission to search, then have them open doors and cupboards. The homeowner maintains control. We peer over their shoulder, and the soldier uses the homeowner's body language and position to protect him."
During this phase of the operation, troops will interact with residents and media while implementing crowd-control measures and possibly treating and evacuating injured persons.
The unit will use a Blackhawk helicopter for overhead command and control, and to simulate medevacs.
The drill will culminate in the apprehension of the suspected arms dealer.
Alpha Company will conduct a review of the drill on Sunday, April 5.
A meeting to give residents more information and accept volunteers will be held 7 p.m. Monday, March 2, in the Arcadia American Legion hall.
Kots said the exercise will replace Alpha Company's weekend drill for April.
"We have a lot of extended drills this coming year," he added.
In addition to surveillance, searching and apprehension, the exercise will also give the troops valuable experience in stability, support, patrol, traffic control, vehicle searches and other skills needed for deployment in an urban environment.
"This exercise will improve the real-life operational skills of the unit," said Kots. "And it will hopefully improve the public's understanding of military operations."
The pre-drill work with residents is as important at the drill itself.
"It will be important for us to gain the trust and confidence of the residents of Arcadia," said Kots. "We will need to identify individuals that are willing to assist us in training by allowing us to search their homes and vehicles and to participate in role-playing."
"We really want to get as much information out there as possible, because this operation could be pretty intrusive to the people of Arcadia."
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February 20th, 2009 06:21 PM
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That is getting scary,how long before they decide that deploying regular troops on US soil is okay for the good of the children
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February 20th, 2009 06:58 PM
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That is getting scary,how long before they decide that deploying regular troops on US soil is okay for the good of the children
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February 20th, 2009 07:02 PM
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The conditioning process begins for troops as well as VICTIMS. One has to wonder at what level of government this exercise was initiated.

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February 20th, 2009 07:48 PM
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The training works both ways.
Pay attention and see where NOT to store your guns.
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February 20th, 2009 11:18 PM
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We can not use the National Guard to protect our boarders, but we can use them for this BS.
Every day we come a little closer to adding the SR to our country.
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February 20th, 2009 11:38 PM
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You all realize this is training for operations OVERSEAS, where the military (surprise!) seeks out people who are arming the insurgents.... Right?
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February 21st, 2009 12:01 AM
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You all realize this is training for operations OVERSEAS, where the military (surprise!) seeks out people who are arming the insurgents.... Right"
Of course.
Even the elected idiots are smart enough to know that they couldnt depend on the homeboys to collect guns. When that happens it will be done by someone else.
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February 21st, 2009 04:37 AM
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You mean it will be done by UN troops? The same UN that Obama and Rahm Emanuel are getting cozy with?
And what about Obama's promise of a "special" national police force? You think he can't find a group of like minded thugs who would augment the UN troops?
It's all duel use tactics and policies. There's what our benevolent and trustworthy government tells us it is used for and then there's what it will be used for.
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February 21st, 2009 05:33 AM
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Hmmmm....weapons dealer.....is that kind of like an "unlicensed dealer" the left likes to throw out to close the "gun show loophole"?
I guess an "unlicensed dealer" could be someone with more than one gun who could possibly sell the "excess" guns (without a license) for profit....gee who could that be?
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February 21st, 2009 06:44 AM
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You all realize this is training for operations OVERSEAS, where the military (surprise!) seeks out people who are arming the insurgents.... Right?
Ditto, sounds a lot like some of the patrols I've run downrange. I check every house I'm in for weapons over here, and sometimes they are confiscated.
All service members take an Oath to defend the Constitution, which thankfully the 2A is part of.
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February 21st, 2009 04:45 PM
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I thought our military had existing training programs and facilities for this. At least that's what Sgt. Ermey shows me on Mail Call. When, before 9/11, did the military use towns and citizens to train? The Marines have been training in my little burg for a couple years on and off, usually without advance notice. They had role players standing around abandoned warehouses and walking down railroad tracks dressed in full Hadji gear and carrying AKs. Others were camped out on river banks fro 2-3 days doing surveillance. Lucky nobody got shot my some Redneck Special Forces!
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February 21st, 2009 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I thought our military had existing training programs and facilities for this. At least that's what Sgt. Ermey shows me on Mail Call. When, before 9/11, did the military use towns and citizens to train? The Marines have been training in my little burg for a couple years on and off, usually without advance notice. They had role players standing around abandoned warehouses and walking down railroad tracks dressed in full Hadji gear and carrying AKs. Others were camped out on river banks fro 2-3 days doing surveillance. Lucky nobody got shot my some Redneck Special Forces!
I know it was supposed to be serious, but that's funny right there.
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February 21st, 2009 07:22 PM
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We can not use the National Guard to protect our borders, but we can use them for this BS.
Great point.
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February 21st, 2009 07:58 PM
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Of course.
Even the elected idiots are smart enough to know that they couldnt depend on the homeboys to collect guns. When that happens it will be done by someone else.
Oh, it'll be done by the blue hats, NG, and the Goon Squad
Curious to know what a full scale invasion looks like?
NG to augment the LEO agencies to monitor protests and potential riots, and maintain martial law. Goon squad to lock down the retailers, distributors, and the top 10k 4473 private owners group. Blue hats will be knocking at everyone else's door...once and only once.
Squads of 4 going through your house with metal detectors, pry bars and sledge hammers doing their best to fill their shopping list. If the list does not get filled, then you get a pleasant trip in the back of a truck to your local public venue (arena, auditorium, gymnasium) where you will sit and wait to be interviewed as to the location of the missing weapons, ammunition, and components.
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