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    The town of Pulaski (my county seat, and about six miles from my home) has the local nickname of "Little Chicago" -- because of a disproportionately high incident of drug use, drug related violent and nonviolent crimes, and other more typically city type problems, than more small town/rural . As all the industry has closed down/gone overseas all problems have gone up.

    This is just another blow. No stereotyping here, on my part. Some very good Officers there. Just another blow we/they don't need.

    Pulaski officer arrested, faces drug charges - Roanoke.com

    Pulaski officer arrested, faces drug charges

    The police chief called it "disappointing" and said an internal investigation has been launched.
    By Neil Harvey
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    A Pulaski police officer was arrested Thursday on drug-related charges and has been suspended from duty.

    Christopher Franklin Bond was arrested at a Wythe County residence by Virginia State Police and deputies from the Wythe County Sheriff's Office, according to state police spokesman Sgt. Michael Conroy.

    Bond has been charged with one felony count of attempting to possess methamphetamine, a misdemeanor count of attempting to possess the painkiller Loritab and one misdemeanor count of possession of marijuana.

    "He showed up at a drug transaction and attempted to purchase the drugs," Conroy said, adding that Bond was off-duty at the time of the arrest. Warrants were executed against him Thursday night and he was arraigned Friday.

    An officer at the New River Valley Regional Jail confirmed Friday that Bond was being held there without bond, but she declined to say when his next court date is.

    In a news release issued Friday, Pulaski police Chief Gary Roche said Bond, who has been with the department for about two years, had been placed on administrative suspension.

    Roche also said the department had initiated an internal affairs investigation to find out whether agency protocols were violated. He described the situation as "disappointing."

    "It is unfortunate that the alleged actions of one individual can sometimes taint the reputations of people who seek to protect the citizens of their community and who perform their duties in a professional manner," Roche said.
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    I wonder if he'll share a jail cell with a guy he busted in the past?
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    Before we throw all our stones at this guy lets remember there's two sides to every story.He may be suffering from chronic pain and can't get medication he
    needs or the amounts he requires to be pain free.People that don't live in this world don't realize how much the government interferes with doctors care
    when it come to prescribing class two narcotics.I've read on the net some people
    have resorted to buying on the street or on the net at highly inflated prices.If the officer is buying them for resale have no mercy!

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    Class II + weed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stetson View Post
    Before we throw all our stones at this guy lets remember there's two sides to every story.He may be suffering from chronic pain and can't get medication he
    needs or the amounts he requires to be pain free.People that don't live in this world don't realize how much the government interferes with doctors care
    when it come to prescribing class two narcotics.I've read on the net some people
    have resorted to buying on the street or on the net at highly inflated prices.If the officer is buying them for resale have no mercy!
    I can understand someone buying pain killers when their needs aren't met by the "real" doctors. But, per the story, he had both painkillers and weed. There is probably no legitimate medical reason (pain from illness) that would explain having the weed---while still being able to do active duty as an officer.

    I'm pretty libertarian on these issues and would like to see a great deal of liberalizaton of the drug laws including abolishment of the prescription requirement for most pharmaceuticals. (That by itself would cut medical care costs by tens of billions each year.)
    I don't care what someone puts in their body so long as they are still able to behave themselves and don't do dangerous stuff that would hurt others.

    That said, we do expect our officers to be law abiding. We expect our elected officials to be law abiding, and we expect our society's leaders to be law abiding.

    Anyway, not to make this political but to point out the obvious, if a guy like Rush can be "forgiven" or "ignored" of his drug transgressions, I guess I can find it in my heart to see if this officer can't somehow be rehabilitated and retain his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post

    That said, we do expect our officers to be law abiding. We expect our elected officials to be law abiding, and we expect our society's leaders to be law abiding.

    Anyway, not to make this political but to point out the obvious, if a guy like Rush can be "forgiven" or "ignored" of his drug transgressions, I guess I can find it in my heart to see if this officer can't somehow be rehabilitated and retain his job.
    People in authority must be held to the highest degree of intregrity. If we don't they will lose all respect of those that depend on them.

    We cannot compare Rush to a public servent, Rush did not take an oath. He is not in a position of authority over the general public.
    I can forgive a person but still no longer trust him in a position where trust is vital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    There are dirtbags in EVERY profession.
    YES! EVERY profession. Cops come in all types,good,bad and ugly. So do preachers,doctors,firefighters, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    ... I'm pretty libertarian on these issues and would like to see a great deal of liberalizaton of the drug laws including abolishment of the prescription requirement for most pharmaceuticals. (That by itself would cut medical care costs by tens of billions each year.)
    I don't care what someone puts in their body so long as they are still able to behave themselves and don't do dangerous stuff that would hurt others. ...
    In theory, I agree with you. One concern I have is that how does society determine if they can do dangeroue stuff that would hurt others. We have blood alcohol tests that determine this. It would be a logistical nightmare to have tests for any/all drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlr1m View Post
    People in authority must be held to the highest degree of intregrity. If we don't they will lose all respect of those that depend on them.

    We cannot compare Rush to a public servent, Rush did not take an oath. He is not in a position of authority over the general public.
    I can forgive a person but still no longer trust him in a position where trust is vital.

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    To a point I agree, but Rush reaches Millions of listeners on a daily basis, so in a sense, he has a greater responsibility in my book compared to this individual who reaches hundreds on a daily basis.

    Just another perspective on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sojourner View Post
    In theory, I agree with you. One concern I have is that how does society determine if they can do dangeroue stuff that would hurt others. We have blood alcohol tests that determine this. It would be a logistical nightmare to have tests for any/all drugs.
    I don't think it would be any sort of a logistics nightmare whatsoever.

    Our society is hung up on alcohol and drug tests which detect the presence of the substance, rather than address the real issue which is impairment.

    There are innumerable ways to quickly assess impairment of thinking and reflex times.

    It should be no problem at all to program handhelds and similar such as iPhone with impairment tests.

    In our household we own a handheld game which is quite sensitive to
    the changes in our ability to react and think throughout the day. As the day wears on, our scores drop.

    There are many forms of impaired functionality that have nothing whatsoever to do with drug use, and folks with impairments that present either safety hazards or job performance issues can be readily detected by inexpensive game-boy like devices.

    Therefore, I think we can safely sell very many pharmaceuticals with
    the consent of the pharmacist, with clear package labels as to their purpose and who should not use it, and the advice that it is unwise to take it unless a physician has given the suggestion. Such a label would allow folks with chronic conditions who are able to monitor themselves the ability to get what they need without shelling out 150-300 or more dollars a couple of times per year. Diabetics, asthma sufferers, seasonal allergy sufferers, chronic anxiety patients, pain patients would all benefit.

    The loser would be the primary care doc--but then, s/he could turn attention to those who truly need the office visit.

    An alternative would be to grant much broader prescribing powers to nurse practioners, PAs, even EMTs, psychologists and optometrists.

    Would doing so sometimes cause problems. Sure. But the overall cost savings could be immense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stetson View Post
    Before we throw all our stones at this guy lets remember there's two sides to every story.He may be suffering from chronic pain and can't get medication he needs or the amounts he requires to be pain free.People that don't live in this world don't realize how much the government interferes with doctors care
    when it come to prescribing class two narcotics.
    This argument negelcts the fact that the govenment does not interfere, but rather holds doctors accountable. Prescribing class two narcotics is at the doctor's discretion and requires only yearly face to face visits with the patient. It is not an arduous requirement.

    More importantly, there is no 'right' to be pain free. Many of us live with chronic pain. Sometimes we take appropriate drugs to mitigate pain but an individual has no specific training to determine safe dosages. That is the responsibility of the doctor. Believing an individual should control their own intake of drugs is a libertarian nightmare; one reason why the liberals and libertarians get no support on this issue.

    I've read on the net some people have resorted to buying on the street or on the net at highly inflated prices.If the officer is buying them for resale have no mercy!
    If the officer is breaking the law he should be prosecuted, found guilty and serve the maximum sentence, whether it is for personal use or if he is a drug dealer.

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