This is a discussion on "Fear Note" From A Police Academy Commander within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by mi2az We may find ourselves that our military will disobey their orders to kill their own countrymen . Read up on the ...
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I hate to say it, but there are so many sheep out there that they may just do nothing and all will be lost. Remember that even during the colonial days, 1/3 wanted a revolution, 1/3 didn't and 1/3 didn't care either way.
Personally, I hope that we can stop this peacefully by 2010 and again in 2012.
Preparing for the Zombie Apocalypse or Rapture....whichever comes first.
Manan got it right about Posse Comitatis and lawful orders, however, I'm afraid of two things - 1. A lot of individuals in our armed forces would follow any order, lawful or not. 2. I think thats why they want a civilian military force. Have you not seen a kiss up in the military or where you work that would go along with the boss no matter how it affects the employees. Be aware and be prepared.
Its a shame that youth is wasted on the young.
I fear all of you expressing similar thoughts may be a bit optimistic. Thanks to our federalized education system too many of the youth of this country (who make up the bulk of "The Troops") are ignorant of the constitution. When I was working at a Missouri university I was asked to give a guest lecture to a political science class concerning the Missouri referendum on concealed carry. Before I started I held up a copy of The Federalist Papers and asked for a show of hands if any of the 30 or so students there had ever read it; nothing but blank stares; I asked if anyone knew what it was; more blank stares.They would have to convince our soldiers to turn their weapons on their own citizens and kill them full knowing that their government is breaking the constitution of the United States.
Recently while working at a gun shop/indoor range I was talking to a full time sergeant in the National Guard and on the subject of confiscating private firearms he said “I wouldn’t like it but I would do my duty”. I looked him in the eye and said “When I took that oath it was to uphold and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign AND domestic”. All I got was a blank look. I am afraid I do not have that much faith in the federally educated (indoctrinated) youth of this country.
not to mention any dumb butter bar(or anyone else for that matter) tells me to turn my weapon on the citizenry is not only issueing an illegal order but is also commiting a war crime and thus i am no longer legaly or moraly obligated to listen to them.
"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result."
Every well-bred petty crook knows: the small concealable weapons always go to the far left of the place setting.
Many people see it.
Its no longer a matter of "if" but its a matter of "when".
There will be those that will argue that it will never happen here, but when it does they wont last long.
The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it...- George Orwell
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There is a reason I have a SERE logo on my name. Hence I will survive... will you? Just make sure you have what you need whether you need it not. It is better to have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it.
I used to think survivalist were insane whacko's until I started reading books like Atlas Shrugged and reading about the in depth writings about the founding fathers. Im very scared but not without hope.
It will take a martyr to spark a true revolution, so until that happens....
"I believe that the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms must not be infringed if liberty in America is to survive." - Ronald Reagan
I was also able to locate the full copy via an ongoing thread at AR15.com.
BTW for the doubters and ehh he's just another mall ninja posting at gunfu.com thinkers as I was, the authors credentials I found are easily and publicly confirmed.
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There needs to be a school choice option available in our elementry/high schools because the federal sponsored and liberal teachers union run schools have so dumbed down our kids trying to push their socialistic agenda. They no longer teach of the reasons our country was founded. They denegrate our founding fathers, belittle or ignore the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence while they praise the concept of equality in all things and belittle capitalism. Many schools have minimized the concept of competition and rewarding success in an effort to save the lazy from having their feelings hurt because they did not make the honor roll. What do we get for it. We get students graduating high school illiterate and citizens in general that believe they are deserving of the rewards of success even though they don't earn it. And if the government gives it to them, all the better. What has this country come to?
God help us.
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." -Thomas Jefferson
"Liberalism is a Mental Disorder." -Michael Savage
GOOD Gun Control is being able to hit your target! -Myself
Personally I think it is the duty of every sworn LEO and military member to study the Constitution as a part of following their oath. To swear to defend something, you must first know what you are defending. I am very glad to see so many fine military and LEO here who take their oath seriously.
"Trust in God with hand on sword" -Inscription on my family's coat of arms from medieval England
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Times have indeed changed, especially in our schools. I can fondly remember my school days, My english teacher, Mr. Ehlert, always had the current copy of Guns and Ammo.
My art teacher, Mr. Stansell, enthusiastically helped me with my sculpture entitled "The gun that made the twenties roar" in honor of the Thompson. Mr. Reese helped those in woodworking build stocks for their hunting rifles. During it all, there was not a single case of a teacher having sex with a student.
"First gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand."
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Thaks for the post Ex. All Americans should be aware of these issue and be prepared to respond when the time comes, whether by voting or by other means. Alas, I fear that far too many of our fellow citizens have not only drank too much Kool-Aide, and many are now just inhailing it in powdered form to realize the damage this administration is doing to our country.
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