Requesting input from LEO's on forum

Requesting input from LEO's on forum

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    Hi, I've enjoyed reading the forum for a while but don't have time to post much. Anyway I have a question for the LEO's about carrying a handcuff key. I recently joined the Sheriff's Posse and have gotten different answers about carrying a handcuff key. Do you recommend carrying it on your regular keyring or do you carry it hid out; or do you do both.
    I just turned in paperwork for my CHL and will be carrying my Sig P6 off duty. After I qualify at the range, I'll be issued a G22 as a duty weapon.
    Thanks in advance. I've learned much from the forum.
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    Buy one pen style cuff key, you will use that the most. I like mine seperate from my key ring, but it boils down to personal preference. My thought is I dont want all my other keys getting in the way when trying to cuff or uncuff a prisoner. You should also have several other small keys. Each set of cuffs come with two, and the smaller cuff keys are a dime a dozen anyway. Ask your FTO or senior deputy's about how to carry those.

    I will not do so on an open forum, it would be irresponsible to give away "trade secrets". I hope others will not as well.
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    SIXTO, Thanks for your advice. I understand the "trade secrets" issue and edited my post accordingly. Sorry, I should have known better anyway. No offense intended.
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    Pin style as SIXTO suggests, a couple others that your senior officer will show you where to keep them.
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    I carry a Pen Style as well, im not civilian LEO but I am a military police officer and I agree witht the other posts as well, we have other areas that we carry cuff keys to so, yes ask your FTO about that....

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    I am another fan of the pen style. I also carry at least two others that magically appear when needed.

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    I took my small key and had it cut into by a machinist that was a friend of mine and he placed a piece of stainless hex rod between the 2 halves. It was unique. But I agree with the other LEOs, get an extended key. I never did like my hands right against the BAG especially if he is bleeding.
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    The pen key is nice. I also have one from Streamlight that is nice and wide and has a light for both ends.
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    As Sixto said, don't carry your cuff key with your other keys, they only get in the way. What I did as an LEO was have two sets of keys, work and personal. When on duty, I only had my work keys, which were; unit key, office key, house key and cuff key. I carried them on a larger than average ring, so when I was using one the others hung out of the way.
    I also had a belt keeper with a pocket that I would stick one of the keys in and carry them right on my Sam Browne instead of in a pants pocket where they are hell to get to in a hurry.
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    Thank you everyone for your response. This experience is giving me a new understanding and respect for all of you Law Enforcement and Military who lay it all out there everyday. Thanks to all of you for your service to your communities and to our country. I'm sure I'll have more questions but for now stay safe.
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    My primary key, pen style, goes in my key holder on my belt on the same ring as my station, cell, locker, and gate keys; it doesn't bother me. I keep various small keys on my at work as well, but that's also a "trade secret." All my other key rings have a cuff key; I keep duplicate sets of my personal keys.

    I have to add the disclaimer that I have never cuffed anybody that I've arrested or dealt with at work. There are many Agents that have been on Patrol for years and have never used their cuffs. I still carry three sets just in case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by automatic slim View Post
    As Sixto said, don't carry your cuff key with your other keys, they only get in the way. What I did as an LEO was have two sets of keys, work and personal. When on duty, I only had my work keys, which were; unit key, office key, house key and cuff key. I carried them on a larger than average ring, so when I was using one the others hung out of the way.
    I also had a belt keeper with a pocket that I would stick one of the keys in and carry them right on my Sam Browne instead of in a pants pocket where they are hell to get to in a hurry.
    That's what we were taught in our academy: to keep a separate set of keys. One set for work, and our personal keys. My handcuff keys are on the work key ring, and a pen style key in my left shirt pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LM2024 View Post
    That's what we were taught in our academy: to keep a separate set of keys. One set for work, and our personal keys. My handcuff keys are on the work key ring, and a pen style key in my left shirt pocket.
    Oh yeah, most definatly keep personal set of keys away from your work keys. That is police work 101.
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    A couple posts have been deleted from the thread in the interest of not revealing certain information that does not need to be out in public. I think Sixto said it best:

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    I will not do so on an open forum, it would be irresponsible to give away "trade secrets". I hope others will not as well.
    Please, folks, consider the possibility that not everyone searching for "handcuff key" on the internet is doing so for lawful purposes.
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    I carry the pen style, the small ones that come with the cuffs are more difficult to use
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