FAKE Vet(read wannabe) charged

FAKE Vet(read wannabe) charged

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    FAKE Vet(read wannabe) charged

    Unfortunately there's a lot of fakes out there these days. Thankfully, what goes around comes around...and in this case it's coming around.

    Fake veteran faces 'stolen valor' charge - CNN.com
    Fake veteran faces 'stolen valor' charge
    updated 4 hours, 27 minutes ago

    (CNN) -- Richard Strandlof said he survived the 9/11 attacks on the Pentagon. He said he survived again when a roadside bomb went off in Iraq, killing four fellow Marines. He'd point to his head and tell people he had a metal plate, collateral damage from the explosion.
    Richard Strandlof says he didn't mean to cause harm when he lied about being a military veteran.

    Richard Strandlof says he didn't mean to cause harm when he lied about being a military veteran.

    None of it was true. On Friday, the FBI arrested him on the rare charge of "stolen valor."

    Strandlof, 32, was held "for false claims about receipt of military decorations or medals," an FBI news release said. Charges had been filed in Denver, Colorado, the week before, the bureau said.

    "The penalty for his crime is up to one year incarceration and a $100,000 fine," it said.

    Before his deception was revealed, crowds ate up his story. He canvassed Colorado appearing at the sides of politicians. Inspiring and seemingly authentic, he spoke on behalf of veterans at the state Capitol.

    He formed a group called the Colorado Veterans Alliance.

    The whole thing was a lie, he admitted to CNN's Anderson Cooper earlier this year. Video Watch Strandlof discuss case in June.

    He wasn't at the Pentagon. He was never a Marine. He never served his country. He never graduated from the Naval Academy. He claimed his real name was Rick Duncan.

    Where was he on 9/11, the day he said he witnessed heroism firsthand?

    "I was in San Jose, California, watching it in horror on TV with a few other people," Strandlof told CNN.

    He was at a homeless shelter at the time.

    Strandlof denies being a pathological liar. He says he suffered from "some severely underdiagnosed mental illness" and he got caught up in the moment around "people who are passionate and loved what they did."

    He told CNN he had put on a "production, which I'm sorry for."

    "Hopefully the people that I hurt can in some way gain closure from that, and I myself don't know what I can do, short of leaving them alone and not being in their lives, to make that happen," Strandlof said.

    He said he's not sure exactly how he's hurt people. "It's not for me to say, and time will tell," he said.

    Hal Bidlack, a former Air Force lieutenant colonel, is one of those people. He ran for Congress as a Democrat and had Strandlof appear with him. Bidlack -- who lost to incumbent Republican Doug Lamborn -- isn't too happy.

    "Once one lie fell apart, the whole series of things ... just cascaded into an ocean of lies," he said.

    Bidlack was at the Pentagon when it came under attack on September 11, 2001. He now realizes that Strandlof stole portions of his own story.

    "Now that we know he's a lying fraud," Bidlack said, "I think he was just parroting my own story back to me."

    "There are an awful lot of things that he kept straight to try to fool an awful lot of people for an awful long time."

    Doug Sterner has catalogued hundreds of people claiming to be military veterans who never served in the military. He says it's typical for those perpetuating the hoaxes to claim mental illness.

    "I don't buy that," Sterner said. "What he was doing was looking for a cause to promote himself. I see this repeatedly. I've had a hundred cases just this year like Rick Strandlof's. ... What they're doing is building a kingdom of self and feeding their own ego."

    Sterner has pushed for a federal database listing the names and citations of all decorated military veterans to help put an end to such cases. He said Strandlof has robbed true veterans of their veracity.

    "Doing good does not take away from the bad that he did," he said. "Because of Rick Strandlof, the next global war on terrorism veteran that speaks in a school or talks to the media or gets involved in politics is going to be questioned."

    Ryan Gallucci, a spokesman for AMVETS, agreed.

    "Strandlof's actions dishonor the actual sacrifices of veterans," he told CNN Monday.

    "Second, by commissioning his own advocacy group, Strandlof diverted philanthropy dollars for legitimate causes within the veterans community," Gallucci said.

    "Personally, it just sickens me," Gallucci added. "As a veteran of the war in Iraq, it's unfathomable that someone would propagate such a lie at a time when American men and women are actually putting their lives on the line, and American families are coping with the loss of those who have made the ultimate sacrifice."

    According to the Denver Post, Strandlof came to authorities' attention first in 1997, when he was sentenced to five years on forgery and bad-check charges.

    The FBI was investigating him for fraud when he spoke to CNN -- a charge he denied.

    "We did not take money to use on non-veterans projects. I did not enrich myself on this. I did not gain any money from this," he said.

    He has not been charged with fraud.

    That's not the point, said Sterner. "The one thing he robbed from every veteran that comes out now is credibility."
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    Gallucci called Strandlof a "con man" and the case "morally repugnant."

    "Strandlof's actions are exploitation plain and simple, and AMVETS is eager to see justice served," Gallucci said.
    "My God David, We're a Civilized society."

    "Sure, As long as the machines are workin' and you can call 911. But you take those things away, you throw people in the dark, and you scare the crap out of them; no more rules...You'll see how primitive they can get."
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    Make a dam good Libra I meen Liar ; )
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    That's pretty low.
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    Maybe he wouldn't mind enlisting now. Is there a MOS currently for bullet catcher. Might save some of the real soldiers lives.
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    For some reason this seems to be getting more common. It's really sad, usually these "pretenders" try and pass themselves as some type of Special Ops.
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    I don't understand how he got so far with the lie. The experiences that any veteran goes thru are unique (LOL - often so bizzarre they are unbelievable) and difficult to fake. Unless he's speaking to only civilians, I'm surprised that a vet didn't call him out immediately...
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    Make his story come true with a one way ticket to Iraq. Usually the one's who are the real hero's do not talk much about it, specially with people who are not really close to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottkeeper;13[32355
    Make his story come true with a one way ticket to Iraq.
    The problem with sending him to Iraq is "Why punish those loyal troops who are there by shoving this fraud into their midst?"

    To see the full text of the statute, go to: Stolen Valor Act
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    Grrr, I'd like to pound the top of his steel plated head
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    Well, this article plus the funeral of a local veteran this weekend has reminded me once again...To the REAL VETS...Thanks for your service.
    "My God David, We're a Civilized society."

    "Sure, As long as the machines are workin' and you can call 911. But you take those things away, you throw people in the dark, and you scare the crap out of them; no more rules...You'll see how primitive they can get."
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