The truth about Ft Hood

The truth about Ft Hood

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    wow, someone of authority that has the gonads to tell it like it is
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    This video of a retired general is very interesting but it is his opinion (and I agree with much of it) but can't be called "the truth".
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    At least we're going forward with lessons learned. Or not.

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    In response to a Islamic Jihadi attack on our troops, we subject the same troops to sensitivity training shortly thereafter by a...Islamic Jihadi. Are we living in f*ing bizarro world? Are there no senior officers with testicles anymore? WTFO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chenemf View Post
    This video of a retired general is very interesting but it is his opinion (and I agree with much of it) but can't be called "the truth".
    May not br truth to you, but it is to me.

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    The reason those lives were lost at Ft. Hood is because there was not someone there who could immediately respond to the threat against life and limb.

    Lives were lost because of another Gun Free Zone, because those soldiers are restricted from exercising their right to self defense while in uniform. Contractors while on the post.

    It would not have mattered one little bit if the shooter was a crazy jihadist, or a disgruntled thug who weaseled his way into ACU's or if it were some horrible domestic violence incident that spilled over into the workplace.

    The motives of some sociopath are of little consequence to me. The religious views of some disgraced general doesn't matter to me at all.
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    Preach it, Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin!!

    You hit the nail on the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M203Sniper View Post

    The religious views of some disgraced general doesn't matter to me at all.
    William G. Boykin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The ability to take care of myself and my fellow service members does.
    Disgraced? I have not been able to find anything about that! I read your link and have to disagree with you. Mr Boykin is my kind of leader.

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    America is under attack and we have been infiltrated, deeper than some can accept, that is pretty obvious no matter who points out the truth...
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    It is nice to heear someone speak the truth and call what happened at Ft. Hood terrorism, as it was, however, I fear it falls on the deaf ears of the current leadership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M203Sniper View Post
    The reason those lives were lost at Ft. Hood is because there was not someone there who could immediately respond to the threat against life and limb.

    Lives were lost because of another Gun Free Zone, because those soldiers are restricted from exercising their right to self defense while in uniform. Contractors while on the post.

    It would not have mattered one little bit if the shooter was a crazy jihadist, or a disgruntled thug who weaseled his way into ACU's or if it were some horrible domestic violence incident that spilled over into the workplace.

    The motives of some sociopath are of little consequence to me. The religious views of some disgraced general doesn't matter to me at all.
    William G. Boykin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The ability to take care of myself and my fellow service members does.
    Absolutely correct. The killing stopped when the first person with a gun showed up 4 minutes and by luck, on the scene.

    You'd think that out of 70,000 people the Army could arrange to have at least 5 armed people present at every gathering.

    Another thing, the 5.7x28 was proved to be a total failure as a self-defense weapon, IMHO. Of course tyhe media called it a "manstopper" and a "cop killer" and ignored the Federal law on handgun bullets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Macklin View Post
    Absolutely correct. The killing stopped when the first person with a gun showed up 4 minutes and by luck, on the scene.

    You'd think that out of 70,000 people the Army could arrange to have at least 5 armed people present at every gathering.

    Another thing, the 5.7x28 was proved to be a total failure as a self-defense weapon, IMHO. Of course tyhe media called it a "manstopper" and a "cop killer" and ignored the Federal law on handgun bullets.
    I agree with you saying " The killing stopped when the first person with a gun showed up 4 minutes and by luck, on the scene."

    The thread is talking about the Army not wanting to hurt anyones feelings and stopping this terrorist before he decided to murder the soldiers that he was supposed to defend. It is not talking about how the killing stopped.

    I sure think that there should be armed soldiers on an army base too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M203Sniper View Post
    T The religious views of some disgraced general doesn't matter to me at all.
    William G. Boykin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The ability to take care of myself and my fellow service members does.
    Besides some accusations by the ridiculous Sy Hersh, what in that wikipedia article (never a good source, by the way) indicates Boykin is a disgraced general?

    If you care about taking care of yourself and your bros, you'll take the nature of the threat seriously. A "thug" or "domestic incident" is a random act. You and fellow soldiers being targeted by a religiously motivated sociopath specifically because of who you and your buds are should be on your radar. If you think this was a random act by another run of the mill psychotic, you're not seeing what's right in front of you.

    Is there a part of you that feels more rational or intelligent by discounting the religious nature of this attack and/or belittling a man who has surely done more in the service of his country than you due to his strong religious views?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M203Sniper View Post
    The reason those lives were lost at Ft. Hood is because there was not someone there who could immediately respond to the threat against life and limb.

    Lives were lost because of another Gun Free Zone ...
    Yup. Everything else is whitewash and the blame game.

    What must change is the ability of people to defend against attack. Without that, other preparations are relatively meaningless in terms of being able to quickly terminate violent attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Macklin View Post
    You'd think that out of 70,000 people the Army could arrange to have at least 5 armed people present at every gathering.
    Or all 70,000. There was a time in the not too distant past when it was so (so far as I understand it). Now, we're in a time when it's the only practical thing that will help mitigate such crimes ... and still nobody will consider it.
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