Midair Bomb Attempt Fails

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunGeezer View Post
    Yemen is a rather small country. I'd say about 5-8 megaton's in size. Better to err on the larger size than to leave an olive tree standing.
    +1,000,000

    And this dirtbag was on a WATCH LIST.......
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    WASHINGTON -- Alleged links between a Northwest Airlines terrorism suspect and militants in Yemen are raising new concerns inside the Obama administration that the Middle East country is emerging as a key new safe haven for al Qaeda.

    The suspect, Nigerian-national Abdul Mudallad, said he received instructions and training from al Qaeda operatives based in Yemen ahead of boarding the Detroit-bound flight Friday, according to U.S. law-enforcement officials.

    These officials said they couldn't confirm Mr. Mudallad's claims. But the purported bombing attempt came as Yemen's security forces intensified military operations against al Qaeda forces, with significant U.S. intelligence support.

    Among the targets of Yemen's military campaign, according to Yemeni and U.S. officials, is Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical Islamic preacher linked to the shooter in last month's attack on the Ft. Hood military compound in Texas.

    U.S. law-enforcement officials Friday said they were investigating if Mr. Mudallad may have been seeking to strike American targets in retaliation for Washington's role in Yemen's crackdown. Yemen's government claims it has killed nearly a hundred militants in operations over the past two weeks, particularly in the country's remote Shabwa region.

    U.S. counterterrorism officials view Yemen, along with Pakistan and Somalia, as among the most dangerous safe havens for al Qaeda and other militant groups in the Middle East and North Africa.

    Yemen is the poorest country in the Arab world and faces dwindling oil supplies and severe water shortages. President Ali Abdullah Saleh, meanwhile, is fighting well-armed insurgencies in both Yemen's south and north, providing potential sanctuaries for militants seeking to target the West and U.S. allies.

    Last month, Saudi Arabia invaded northern Yemen to try and contain Shiite fighters, who are known as the Houthi rebels. Yemen's southern tribes, meanwhile, are seen as closely tied to al Qaeda and other radical Islamic groups. Osama bin Laden's family originally came from Yemen.

    The Pentagon provided nearly $70 million in counter-terrorism aid this year, along with substantial intelligence support and training programs. U.S. officials, however, have voiced frustration over what they say has been Mr. Saleh's failure to adequately focus on al Qaeda. Many believe he could have used dialogue, rather than arms, to address the Houthi threat.

    U.S. officials, however, have said they've been pleased by Yemen's latest military campaign. "They finally seem to be stepping up to the plate," said a U.S. official working on Yemen.

    Yemen's instability is one of the primary reasons President Barack Obama will be unable to meet his January target date for shutting the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba.

    Nearly half of the 210 detainees at Guantanamo are Yemeni nationals. And the Pentagon has concluded that roughly 60 of these men continue to pose a security threat to the U.S.
    Here's some more.......Arghhhhhhhhh

    Domestic and international airline passengers returning home from the holidays might see increased security measures at airports around the world, U.S. officials said Friday.

    President Barack Obama ordered heightened security after a passenger aboard an international flight, Northwest Airlines Flight 253, attempted to detonate an explosive device. Mr. Obama called for "all appropriate measures" to be taken following the incident Friday.

    A Transportation Security Administration official said the agency was working "with our international partners on international measures for U.S.-bound flights."

    Domestically, an official with the Department of Homeland Security said a host of measures would be quietly put into place at airports across the country.

    The official said some of the measures might be noticeable to the traveling public, while others would be unseen. They would likely include increased personnel, bomb-sniffing dogs and increased "behavioral detection" methods employed by screeners.

    In addition, officials said the measures would be put into place at some airports, but not all.

    Officials declined to say whether passengers could expect delays, but urged travelers to check with the TSA, www.tsa.gov, and their airline before flying.

    The threat level for airline security has been high, or orange under the color-coded advisory system, since 2006, when authorities say they disrupted a plot to detonate liquid explosives on trans-Atlantic airliners.
    Read the "No Fly" lists too.........just read the lists...........

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    I'm a long time EOD/UXO guy. A passenger on that aircraft said that the perp had a powder on his trousers. The material was most likely triacetone triperoxide, TATP. TATP is a very dangerous primary high explosive that contains no nitrogen: It is not detectable by bomb sniffing dogs or conventional sniffer machines.

    (Deleted) The mixture starts as a liquid that instantly turns into a powder. When the precursers are mixed it immediately detonates.

    One method that sleuths use for identifing folks who have been experimenting with TATP is to examine them for burns.

    The Madrid train bombers used TATP. So did shoe bomber Richard Reed.


    The Islamic bomber crazies call it Umm Shatan-The Mother of Satan.

    TATP: Countering the Mother of Satan
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    I expect "the G" will vilify the Dutch man who subdued this guy. Roll the "innocent practitioner of a peaceful religion" and "victim" footage in 3, 2, 1...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig 210 View Post
    One method that sleuths use for identifing folks who have been experimenting with TATP is to examine them for burns.

    The Madrid train bombers used TATP. So did shoe bomber Richard Reed.
    Yep, TATP is nasty stuff. Two easiest ways to spot people making it, burns and flying bits of bomb maker.
    Also I would edit my last post to remove the components of it....
    I know not what this "overkill" means.

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    Some talking head just announced it was "PETN"?

    Apparently Reid had both: a TATP "trigger" for the PETN bomb?

    Interestingly, it is real easy to study all of this...........Dah.......

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    Obama has ticked off about every agency that has uncovered plots in the past, puts the FBI in charge, and we get ... Ft Hood, Delta flight on Xmas, and ....

    What's the matter, these guys just not listening to Obama and all his apologies. ? Why is this not working and bringing peace on earth and goodwill toward men ?

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    Well, I guess he won't get his 72 virgins now - and even if he did the location of his burns may cause him angst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rottkeeper View Post
    +1,000,000

    And this dirtbag was on a WATCH LIST.......
    Fox has confirmed that U.S. Intel knew about the BG, but he wasn't on a no-fly list.

    Hmmm.

    I think we can all feel safer now......Obama is monitoring the situation from his vacation in Hawaii.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    Obama is monitoring the situation from his vacation in Hawaii.
    So the Tourist-in-Chief is on vacation again? Sorry, I've stopped paying attention to his "World Tour."

    I'm glad they caught this guy. Like someone once said, though: we must get lucky every time; they only have to get lucky once....

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    I remember flying right after the shoe bomb attempt. Everyone had to take their shoes off at the airport. So I must wonder, does this mean we have to take our pants off now to fly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justherenow View Post
    I remember flying right after the shoe bomb attempt. Everyone had to take their shoes off at the airport. So I must wonder, does this mean we have to take our pants off now to fly?
    No.

    TSA will start using body scanners.
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    The passengers restrained the guy. I would of taken My bic pen and stabbed the crap out of him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    No.

    TSA will start using body scanners.
    Just to be sure, my post above was not ment as a serious question
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    Patti had the correct answer though!

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