The Nigerian PETN device

The Nigerian PETN device

This is a discussion on The Nigerian PETN device within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; 2 videos, submitted for your consideration... the first is 20 grams of PETN, the same explosive the Nigerian had on Christmas... except he had 4 ...

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    The Nigerian PETN device

    2 videos, submitted for your consideration... the first is 20 grams of PETN, the same explosive the Nigerian had on Christmas... except he had 4 times as much, or 80 grams...

    20 g PETN


    Now, here's another video on how to make an explosive that only requires one drop to make a surprising explosion, hidden in a ball-point pen...

    Binary explosive



    Who feels like flying to Egypt or Morocco on vacation...?
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    Wow. I am speechless. This cannot be good. I am assuming the technology is well know by good guys and bad.


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    Airport security is designed to protect the asset, the plane. YOU are expendable. If you hear Ali Akhbar in a crowd or on a plane, either shoot for the nose or pray, your option.

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    I remember seeing guys use that binary stuff for seismic applications, they used to tell us it was safer to use and transport that way; the stuff they used I think was called Powerfrac. It had the same type of components, although I don't know if it was anything like the stuff in the video....
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    We dodged a serious bullet here... 300 dead on Christmas day... only a shoddy detonation system saved those people. He was (deliberately, it is assumed) sitting window seat, over the wing and fuel.

    On a related matter, DHS head Napolitano trumpeted the success of this incident... "The system worked..."

    Napolitano: "The system worked"

    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Sunday that the thwarting of the attempt to blow up an Amsterdam-Detroit airline flight Christmas Day demonstrated that "the system worked."

    Asked by CNN's Candy Crowley on "State of the Union" how that could be possible when the young Nigerian who has been charged with trying to set off the bomb was able to smuggle explosive liquid onto the jet, Napolitano responded: "We're asking the same questions."

    Napolitano added that there was "no suggestion that [the suspect] was improperly screened."
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    One drop is pretty impressive... how big a bang would you get from a charge that was the size of, say, a Zippo lighter, or a fun-size candy bar...?
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    Given where he was sitting, over the wing and fuel tank with a few thousand pounds of fuel.... one big fireball in the sky if it had exploded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointnClick View Post
    We dodged a serious bullet here... 300 dead on Christmas day... only a shoddy detonation system saved those people. He was (deliberately, it is assumed) sitting window seat, over the wing and fuel.

    On a related matter, DHS head Napolitano trumpeted the success of this incident... "The system worked..."
    Good Lord. The system FAILED. That scumbag should have never gotten on the airplane in the first place. WTH is the matter with this woman? Is she ignorant or just plain STUPID!

    The only reason we dodged the bullet is because the idiot scumbag FAILED!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    Good Lord. The system FAILED. That scumbag should have never gotten on the airplane in the first place. WTH is the matter with this woman? Is she ignorant or just plain STUPID!

    The only reason we dodged the bullet is because the idiot scumbag FAILED!
    Patti, tell us what ya really think.........

    She's trumpeting the Administration line


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    Quote Originally Posted by Patti View Post
    Good Lord. The system FAILED. That scumbag should have never gotten on the airplane in the first place. WTH is the matter with this woman? Is she ignorant or just plain STUPID!

    The only reason we dodged the bullet is because the idiot scumbag FAILED!
    My exact tjhoughts when I read that morons statement,She must of been thinking about something else,because only a faulty detonator saved that airplane and all those people,Not Homeland Security
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    News Update:

    napolitano has changed her mind.

    She's now saying that the system failed.

    The bottom line: This woman is completely clueless.
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    I thought that since Bush is out of office and Barry is in that this was all going to stop.It was my understanding he could change all this by just talking with terrorist ya know have a round table meeting or something. These people are morons at best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointnClick View Post
    We dodged a serious bullet here... 300 dead on Christmas day... only a shoddy detonation system saved those people. He was (deliberately, it is assumed) sitting window seat, over the wing and fuel.

    On a related matter, DHS head Napolitano trumpeted the success of this incident... "The system worked..."
    heh...what a nutbag. The "system" didn't work. It failed miserably. The only saving grace was that A) the terrorist was a numbnut, and B) some of the other passengers worked!

    It really irritates me when folks claim the success of someone else's work.
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    Do we still have sky marshals?

    Since this is a gun forum what do they carry to defend the airplane?
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    I know the binary systems exist, but that second video looks to be a major hoax. Nothing matches up for starters.
    1. The video shows the pen attached to the side of the melon that's resting on some sort of post/stand.
    2. Suddenly the video cuts to what appears to be an "explosion" of sorts that has a completely different background and the explosion is moving upward and out bottom to top. Wasn't the pen attached to the side of the melon? Shouldn't the explosion be moving left to right? And where's the stand the melon was on along with the rest of the background?
    3. Where was the shockwave and why didn't the camera catch it. If this was HE the camera should have captured the shockwave...if it were an HE compound we would be talking in the thousands of meters per second range.


    What I saw looked like someone lit a darn black cat firecracker and placed the watermelon on top...and yes...seen that first hand...
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