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    The Cold War Part 2?

    Looks like I am the news reporter for this site. Check out this article from Yahoo. It seems that our "Allies", the Russians are back to their old tricks again. I have never trusted them, and I don't think I ever will. I see them as a supporter of Iran. They have too much money tied up in that country and they import in alot of Iranian oil.


    Putin Chastises U.S. on Democratic Ideals
    By JUDITH INGRAM, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 34 minutes ago

    MOSCOW - President

    Vladimir Putin took a swipe at the United States in his state of the nation address Wednesday, bristling at being lectured by Vice President

    Dick Cheney and comparing Washington to a wolf who "eats without listening."

    During an emotional moment in the nationally televised speech, Putin used the fairy-tale motif on the need to build a fortress-like house and to illustrate Russia's need to bolster its defenses. He also suggested that Washington puts its political interests above the democratic ideals it claims to cherish.

    "Where is all this pathos about protecting human rights and democracy when it comes to the need to pursue their own interests? Here, it seems, everything is allowed, there are no restrictions whatsoever," Putin said, smiling sarcastically in the address to both houses of parliament.

    "We are aware what is going on in the world," he said. "Comrade wolf knows whom to eat, he eats without listening, and he's clearly not going to listen to anyone."

    Political analyst Alexei Makarkin told Ekho Moskvy radio the "wolf" reference was a response to the "United States, its actions in

    Iraq and plans toward

    Iran, its games on the territory of the CIS (former Soviet territory) and its criticism of Russia."

    Putin's speech came nearly a week after Cheney on May 4 took a verbal slap at the Russian leader, saying the government sought "to reverse the gains of the last decade."

    In another apparent barb aimed at the United States, Putin said countries should not use Russia's

    World Trade Organization membership negotiations to make unrelated demands.

    "The negotiations for letting Russia into the WTO should not become a bargaining chip for questions that have nothing in common with the activities of this organization," Putin said.

    In April, U.S. senators visiting Moscow said Russia's democracy record and its stance in the Iranian nuclear crisis would influence Congress as it considers Moscow's bid to join the global trade body.

    Nationalist legislator Alexei Mitrofanov told reporters in the Kremlin that Putin's Russia was in no way looking for a confrontation with the West, "but we want to be a politically and economically independent state."

    Putin pointed out that Russia's military budget is 25 times lower than that of the United States. Like the U.S., he said, "we also must make our house strong and reliable."

    "We must always be ready to counter any attempts to pressure Russia in order to strengthen positions at our expense," he said. "The stronger our military is, the less temptation there will be to exert such pressure on us."

    Putin said the government would work to strengthen the nation's nuclear deterrent as well as conventional military forces without repeating the mistakes of the Cold War era, when a costly arms race with Washington drained Soviet resources.

    He said Russia would soon commission two nuclear submarines equipped with the new Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles the nation's first since Soviet times while the land-based strategic missile forces would get their first unit of mobile Topol-M missiles.

    The new missiles and warheads, which can foil defenses by changing direction in flight, would allow Russia to preserve a strategic balance without denting the nation's economic development goals, he said, adding that Russia needs a military that is capable of answering all modern challenges.

    Two-thirds of the army will be professionals instead of conscripts by 2008, he said, allowing the state to reduce the length of obligatory service from two years to one, and nearly 600 rapid-response units will be formed by 2011.

    "We need a military that is able simultaneously to carry on battle in global, regional and, if need be, several local conflicts," he said.

    The military should be able to guarantee Russia's territorial integrity, he said a reference to the threat of Islamic extremists in southern regions surrounding

    Chechnya. He said the threat of terrorism remained significant, and that "extremists of all stripes" feed off of local and religious conflicts.

    "I know that someone very much wants Russia to get bogged down in these problems and, as a result, to be unable to solve a single one of its problems of full-scale development," he said darkly without identifying the foe.

    Turning to health care issues, Putin called the demographic slide that has shrunk Russia's population by millions since the 1991 Soviet collapse "the most acute problem of contemporary Russia," and he encouraged legislators to budget for more generous birth bonuses, childcare support subsidies and educational benefits for mothers to encourage women to have children.

    "I am convinced that with such an approach, you will earn words of gratitude from millions of mothers, young families, all the citizens of our country," Putin said.

    He also called on more Russians to take in foster children from institutions where about 200,000 orphans and abandoned children are interned.

    Most Russian families are small, with couples usually having only one or two children. Putin and his wife have two daughters.

    Russia's population dropped by about 4 percent to 142.7 million between 1993 and 2006, according to the Health Ministry. Experts attribute the plunge to post-Soviet economic turmoil that has badly hurt the state health care system, leading to a drop in birth rates and life expectancy. Increased poverty, alcoholism, soaring crime and emigration have also taken their toll, leading to an average life expectancy of just 66 years 16 years lower than Japan and 14 years lower than the

    European Union average.

    The ITAR-Tass news agency reported that the comments on reversing the population decline prompted 27 bursts of applause and that listeners in all applauded 47 times more than in any of Putin's other state of the nation addresses.
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    Or Dig patton out of his grave clone him and let him take it to them like he wanted to at end of WWII

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    It's just hot air. They aren't a real factor anymore as much as they'd like to be. Just the stupid UN Security Council veto is all they got going for them. Which won't be an issue when we leave the UN (hopes).

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    One should not under estimate an enemy! Especially one with the track record of our Russian friends. (Term Friends used very loosely)
    Their brand of communism is not dead!! and is very dangerous.

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    I believe the Russians are to be trusted "friends" just as are the Iranians. In other words, they will lie, dissemble and prevaricate, but never tell the truth. Never. Remember - Putin IS KGB, IIRC.

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    I am a die hard American, but I do feel the Russians have some legitimate concerns.
    We were never invaded, they have been several times.
    We as a Country do attempt to dictate to them (we can fight our terrorists but they can't fight theirs?).
    Maybe we should try having and treating them as a real ally and not a 2nd rate has been nation, God knows we'll need all the allies we can get in just a few years when we're facing a showdown with China, something that I see happening within the next ten years.
    My personal opinion as someone who considers himself an American Patriot is to start forming some true alliances and not so called alliances where we dictate how things happen. Just imagine if the tables were turned and Russia were the Super Power and we were in decline, It may happen that way yet but with China as the adversary unless our Government and our people wake up to the emerging world realities.
    China, allied with the Muslim world (it's already happening) along with South American Countries (also already happening), India and maybe even Mexico

    The not too distant future scares the cr*p out of me.

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    The not too distant future scares the cr*p out of me.
    Me too! There is much instability and also much that is covered up thru diplomatic talk - underneath which is the real agenda.

    The are numerous things which if played out carelessly could see the balloon going up.
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