This is a discussion on Hired guns secure ships, stir controversy within the Law Enforcement, Military & Homeland Security Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Hire them on and load them up. Let's give those pirates a nice little surprise when they show up. I'm sure there is a firm ...
Hire them on and load them up. Let's give those pirates a nice little surprise when they show up. I'm sure there is a firm just waiting to jump at this chance to be hired.
"I dislike death, however, there are some things I dislike more than death. Therefore, there are times when I will not avoid danger" Mencius"
If you are not going out looking for pirates but are only defending yourself after being attacked it is an act of self defense. If these people want to stop ship owners from allowing their ships personnel from defending themselves then they should be responsible for the protection of the ships and crews themselves. They should be both criminally and civilly libel for any damages or losses that occur.
I don't see how anyone could frown upon this. Someone with weapons is trying to board my boat...I'm pretty sure if I shoot them it's self defense. There should never be laws anywhere against defending yourself...especially at sea.
Love the idea of the cruise ship :)
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Let me guess. This guy is a bureaucrat who travels with armed bodyguards, but doesn't care if you get killed."There are laws against a private individual killing a private individual, even if they are perceived to be pirates," Mason said. "You can’t go on the high seas, just like you can’t go on the streets of London, and shoot people likely to do harm to you."
We have plenty of hypocrites here too.
I can assure you when I owned a seaworthy sailboat, when it left shore; it was well armed, with an AR and a Glock.
Even today when boating in my smaller skiff, I always bring along my Glock
I really can't imagine setting out to sea without some kind of defensive capabilities. It just seems like a bad idea, asking for trouble. And maybe when they realize that the only people who are against arming the ships are the pirates and politicians, they will realize that similar laws on land regarding self-defense are equally misguided.
Walk softly ...
"There are laws against a private individual killing a private individual, even if they are perceived to be pirates," Mason said. "You can’t go on the high seas, just like you can’t go on the streets of London, and shoot people likely to do harm to you."
WOW?!? That quote alone baffles me to the point of........... heck, I don't even know yet. That mind-set is SO absolutly and completly foregin to my instinct for survival, not to mention just my basic, common horse-sense.
I'm with the Navy's 5th Fleet spoksman on this....... Your safety is your own responsiblity on the open ocean.
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Mason appears to be British,I would LMAO if the headlines read 'British Naval Battleship" taken over by 6 Armed Somali Pirates,There were no shots fired,British Navy has decided that any hostage rescue attempt would only Jeopardize the rest of it's ships being taken by armed gangs of 2 somali Pirates
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I think the problem in London is that the descendants of William the Conqueror and Richard the Lionheart were slowly bred out of existence in much the same was as the idiots took over the world in the movie Idiocracy, leaving only the descendents of Sir Robin the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
That said, how could anyone besides an anti-gun, pants wetting, rag wringing, surrender at the first sign of force liberal have a problem with companies hiring heavily armed, privately owned gunboats loaded with the proper weapons and freedom loving, gun toting Americans accompanying ships through the area for protection against unlawful assaults? I guarantee that the pirates will find less dangerous prey immediately upon the first few turkey shoots and sinkings of their little pirate skiffs.
I just want to add that the cruises offering said vacations need to add long range cameras so they can get nice closeups of the pirates faces when the seemingly defenseless cruise ship opens up a broadside from several hundred screaming American tourists, sort of like those log ride pics they sell at the amusement parks.
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They aren't mercenaries. They are Privateers. Come on. Lets dust off those Letters of Marque and Reprisal.
There are laws against a private individual killing a private individual, even if they are perceived to be pirates," Mason said. "You can’t go on the high seas, just like you can’t go on the streets of London, and shoot people likely to do harm to you."
You can't walk the streets of London with a KNIFE, lest you get arrested and thrown under the jail! It's easy for the British upper class to sit in judgement. Let that moron join the next crew and see how long it takes him to crap his smalls.
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