New here and +P Question

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    New here and +P Question

    Hi folks - what an interesting place you have here - it sure has burned a lot of my daylight since i've found it - lots of wisdom.

    I have CC license for a Stoeger 8000 9mm used mainly for home SD and practice. I have put about 1,000 rounds through it at the range. Would this be enough to say it is broken in? I can't tell. Never a problem with the WWB FMJ but trying out other loads like Hornady Critical Defense and Winchester Silver Tip I've experienced (3x same day) failure of slide to return - it stays back like out of ammo when mag still has ammo. Everything 115 grain so far and it was clean.

    I'm going to keep experimenting with loads and would probably get around to trying the +P except I read here I think ... 'just make sure you're gun is +P rated' ... and in my case, the book clearly states they do not recommend +P and +P+. It was not a big ugly warning DANGER sign, just a line in the middle of the page saying pressures created are high and might damage to barel. Is this out of an abundance of caution or do other makers warrant every gun in their line as +P to differentiate themselves? Is this the trade off for buying a less expensive gun? I've got IRS refund coming so I'm shopping for best price on Sig P239 but would like to know answer to +P before I pull the trigger on that transaction.


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    Ruger sr9/sr9c takes +P. The manual doesn't say anything about +p or +p+ one way or the other.

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    Greetings from Rocky Top Tennessee. I can only tell you what I would do and that is follow the mfg recommendations. In such matters they have some basis for making that statement. You can bet that something screwed up in the past and the mfg is both protecting themselves and saying to the consumer that if you ignore their warning you are on your own.
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    Welcome from South Carolina... I CERTAINLY would follow the mfg/book recommendations. If it says "no +p" then I wouldn't use it. Why do you need it would be my next question. JMO
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    If your manual says not to use +P, then I wouldn't. Not all guns are made for it. You can do what you want, but if you DO have an issue related to +P ammo, the manufacturer may not honor your warranty.
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    Thanks to all - I won't be using +P. I been working my way through different loads like everyone recommends and found that there was something about the HPs that the pistol didn't like - not sure which one it was and not sure if it might have been break-in related, but I was going to keep making my way through the heavier rounds and until learned what the book said, I would have put +P on the list just to see.

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    +1 with following what the manual says...if it says don't use +P, dont use +P ammo.
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    Welcome to the forum from Virginia.

    As the others have said, don't use the +P, since the manufacturer does not recommend using them. After 1000 rounds your gun should be broken in. Hard to tell without looking at the gun as to why your having slide lock back problems. Make sure your finger is not inadvertently activating the slide lock lever when your shooting.

    As to +P+ ammo, I would not recommend using it in any weapon. There are no standard for +P+. You have no idea of the pressure being developed by the load. Basically it's a disaster waiting to happen. To my knowledge no weapons manufacturer warranty there weapons for +P+.
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    Greetings and Salutations from East Tennessee!

    I see you already have your answer on the +P question. As far as the other issue goes, I would say do one of two things:

    1. Use the ammo that works for your gun
    2. Call the manufacturer or take it to a reputable gunsmith. The rounds that you are having issues with are probably tapping the slide stop up when feeding. They can file it down slightly and probably alleviate the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Make sure your finger is not inadvertently activating the slide lock lever when your shooting.
    And +1 on this!
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    Thanks everybody - this place is fantastic - i've been wondering about break-in period and +P for months and in 2 hr I get answers - took more time to figure out how to post than get the answers.

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