man who claims selfdefense charged with murder 9 months later!!!!!

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    man who claims selfdefense charged with murder 9 months later!!!!!

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    Hi.

    Although I'm not your lawyer, I am a lawyer...and I happen to know your lawyer would poop kittens if he knew you were posting about your case on the internet.

    See, what you did here in that post is called a confession, because you just admitted to shooting someone. Self defense in a justification defense that you need to prove after the prosecution has proven it's case in chief - That you shot someone and they died.

    If you like the whole 'freedom' thing, get your head on straight and stay the hell off-line till this thing is over.

    Good luck on the trial and all, and try to not confess online anymore where the DA's investigators can find it, and use your post against you.

    Further...I don't think you understand what you are charged with. Murder in the 1st degree...that's premeditated murder. That's not a charge which get's applied to a botched self defense incident, so either you are wrong about the charge you face...

    Or their is "something" you aren't being forthright about.

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    Probably not a good idea to discuss this on an open forum. Just my opinion.
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    I recommend this thread be LOCKED by the moderators...JMO
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    That user name doesn't help much

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    This is wrong on so many levels.
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    and their very first post..... which makes me wonder and doubt that their post probably had any truth to it.
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    Wow, it took a whole 30 seconds searching google to find the news article of the incident. I must say on it's surface the charges being filed are perplexing.

    But as with all news paper reports, we never have all the real facts. Obviously to police took nine months to do a complete investigation and develop the case.

    I won't link to it here, but you can do your own search if you are interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Wow, it took a whole 30 seconds searching google to find the news article of the incident. I must say on it's surface the charges being filed are perplexing.

    But as with all news paper reports, we never have all the real facts. Obviously to police took nine months to do a complete investigation and develop the case.

    I won't link to it here, but you can do your own search if you are interested.
    I should have looked further, you are quite correct.

    And, "charged with murder and the use of a firearm in commission of a felony" , is the kicker that had been left out of some articles. Seems police didn't take long, but it sat months with the DA's office and their investigator before a charge was brought.

    The first response to the OP, was the best one that could be given. Geez... not a good move to be posting about it.
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    It is also being discussed on another gun forum specific to the state where it happened.

    One of the posters claims to be the best friend of the defendant. I must say, after he posted the criminal record of the deceased, I am shocked the prosecutor would even consider filing charges.

    Of course, it's my understanding that unless the defendant had first hand knowledge of the deceased prior bad acts at the time of the shooting, it won't be admissible in court and the jury will never hear the deceased prior record. I believe that is because of the 401 exclusionary rule. Although I may be mistaken.

    However, the prosecutor definitely had access to the deceased criminal record, and could have used her discretion whether to file charges or not.

    Which makes me wonder, what really are the basis for the charges?
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    I don't go to bars,but if it happened the way it was reported,then I'm confused,unless something is missing.Good reminder to shup until u seek legal counsel
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    + 1 for dukalmighty

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    Seems as though we have discussed this situation several weeks ago: Man claiming self defense is charged with murder, eight months after the shooting
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    I don't know what to make about this.
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