January 3rd, 2012 02:47 AM
Texas Gal Needs Info
We have had prowlres we live in the country wooded acres my mom is disabled and in a perriod of about 1 month we have seen (my neighbor and I) or heard people messin arround outside at least 15 times tonight was the first time someone has tried to come in the house. What means can I use if i catch them in the yard (NOT FENCED IN ) lots of trees to hide behind called police many times they said look up castle laws they cant do ny thing to help unless we or they catch them. I dont know if it is a PERV watching my niece next door or what they are getting brave when they try to come in house my car was at my nieces house they thought my mom was alone how can we protect ourself when we live so far in country the police cant catch them nor can we what do we do they are getting braver as days go by what can i do when i see them in the brush in our yard pls help ny advice ?????
January 3rd, 2012 03:08 AM
* Motion detector lights for night.
* Motion detector sensors that are cheap (see harbor freight). Alarm outside will set off an alert alarm in the house when they are set off. They call them driveway alarms and other names, and work good (only about $17). Can run on simple batteries.
* Game camera, that will take a good picture of them (takes pics when movement is sensed) ... to give to the police and will prove your point. Plus gives a nice visual to ID them with.
* Ducks .... get about 3 (or up to-5) white ducks (fence them in an area with a top so coyotes don't get them.) They will raise hell if anything or anyone that is not known to them .... are in their territory (yard, etc) . Best "watch animal" there is. I'm quite serious about this one. They normally will not shut up until they know the threat to their area has
* If you like dogs, get one...... I have 3 dogs, and they will all not only alert me, but let the person know they came to the wrong place. One of mine kept growling at particular times and I could not see anything, so ignored it. I learned not to ignore her, as each time the next day I would find they have been messing around with car, large shed/buiding, etc. She's a tracking dog, so now, I just turn her loose and follow her with the other one on a leash and with me, while leaving one in the house.
* Shotgun at the ready and know how to use it.
* Lock doors anytime you go out or come in the door.
* If you have neigbors..... a good 135 dbl plus horn tied to an alarm will definitely let everyone know it's been set off. I have 2 that are so loud they will wake up the dead and cause anyone not knowing it's there to need to change pants... and can be heard about 2 miles away. Harbor Freight or Radio Shack has them.
* a fun one, if it's legal there..... thin trip wires...... you might hear them thump the ground if they trip on one. If asked, it was a wire you used to keep your line when you were fertilizing the lawn.
* If they are in the bushes, and you know they are there, I know what I would do. But not knowing Texas laws, that's best to ask someone local or who knows the laws there.
I had a guy who was a peeping Tom & chased him a couple of times when I saw him peeking in my daughter's window. I talked to the police, etc. and that didn't do much as they had an idea who it was but could never catch him. I had an idea, and talked to them, and they laughed and agreed to give it a try. So, one night when I was sure he was out there, I called the police and they went to the other end of the block by the alleyway (direction he always ran)...... I went out with a starter gun (shoots blanks) ..... saw him.... cussed him and started firing the starter gun. He ran so fast it was hilarious..... and he ran right down the alleyway to the police sitting there waiting for him. That stopped that.
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January 3rd, 2012 05:51 AM
from Central Florida!
Lights and noise, as mentioned above, and do have that shotgun at your ready.
Eagleks has listed everything very well...
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January 3rd, 2012 06:23 AM
Welcome from Virginia.
Eagleks about covered it. A 12 gauge pump shotgun loaded with 00 buck is a very effective deterrent. My understanding of TX Castle Doctrine is that you would be justified using deadly force if they are on your property, but not being a lawyer, I may be wrong.
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January 3rd, 2012 08:16 AM
I feel bad for you about your prowler problem.
As others have suggested above...lights, dog/ducks...and a shotgun (Rem.870 or Mossberg 500).
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January 3rd, 2012 08:16 AM
Welcome to the forum from SW Ohio. I think Eagleks just about covered it. Good luck!
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January 3rd, 2012 08:26 AM
Sounds like all bases have been covered. Greetings from Rocky Top Tennessee
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January 3rd, 2012 08:39 AM
Looks like you got a good answer, sorry about your problem, but welcome to the forum.
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January 3rd, 2012 08:58 AM
shucks honey, you're in Texas .... shoot first, ask questions later.
Just kidding, welcome to the forum.
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January 3rd, 2012 09:31 AM
The above information is as good as it get's! Honestly good luck and welcome.
January 3rd, 2012 10:09 AM
wecome to the form and lets get started; under texas code pc ss 35.05 you must post the propery off limits to take any kind of action because they can claim that they didn't know(stuff like looking for my lost dog...) I posted the law and highlighted the posting part. you can't just shoot someone for trespasing, you have to prove they had criminal intent. all the ideas that people stated are good but to understand the law is a plus so if and when something happens you are covered. if and when you catch them this will aid you in a conviction or keep you out of jail
PC §30.05. CRIMINAL TRESPASS. (a) A person commits an offense
if the person enters or remains on or in property of another, including
residential land, agricultural land, a recreational vehicle park, a
building, or an aircraft or other vehicle, without effective consent and
(1) had notice that the entry was forbidden; or
(2) received notice to depart but failed to do so.(b) For purposes of this section:
(1) "Entry" means the intrusion of the entire body.
(2) "Notice" means:
(A) oral or written communication by the owner or someone
with apparent authority to act for the owner;
(B) fencing or other enclosure obviously designed to exclude
intruders or to contain livestock;
(C) a sign or signs posted on the property or at the entrance to
the building, reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders,
indicating that entry is forbidden;
(D) the placement of identifying purple paint marks on trees or
posts on the property, provided that the marks are:
(i) vertical lines of not less than eight inches in length and not
less than one inch in width;
(ii) placed so that the bottom of the mark is not less than
three feet from the ground or more than five feet from the ground; and
(iii) placed at locations that are readily visible to any person
approaching the property and no more than:
32 PC §30.05. TEXAS CONCEALED HANDGUN LAWS
(I) 100 feet apart on forest land; or
(II) 1,000 feet apart on land other than forest land; or
(E) the visible presence on the property of a crop grown for
human consumption that is under cultivation, in the process of being
harvested, or marketable if harvested at the time of entry.
(3) "Shelter center" has the meaning assigned by Section 51.002,
Human Resources Code.
(4) "Forest land" means land on which the trees are potentially
valuable for timber products.
(5) "Agricultural land" has the meaning assigned by Section
75.001, Civil Practice and Remedies Code.
(6) "Superfund site" means a facility that:
(A) is on the National Priorities List established under Section
105 of the federal Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation,
and Liability Act of 1980 (42 U.S.C. Section 9605); or
(B) is listed on the state registry established under Section
361.181, Health and Safety Code.
(7) "Critical infrastructure facility" means one of the following, if
completely enclosed by a fence or other physical barrier that is obviously
designed to exclude intruders:
(A) a chemical manufacturing facility;
(B) a refinery;
(C) an electrical power generating facility, substation, switching
station, electrical control center, or electrical transmission or distribution
(D) a water intake structure, water treatment facility, wastewater
treatment plant, or pump station;
(E) a natural gas transmission compressor station;
(F) a liquid natural gas terminal or storage facility;
(G) a telecommunications central switching office;
(H) a port, railroad switching yard, trucking terminal, or other
freight transportation facility;
(I) a gas processing plant, including a plant used in the processing,
treatment, or fractionation of natural gas; or
(J) a transmission facility used by a federally licensed radio or
(8) "Protected freshwater area" has the meaning assigned by
Section 90.001, Parks and Wildlife Code.
(9) "Recognized state" means another state with which the
attorney general of this state, with the approval of the governor of this
state, negotiated an agreement after determining that the other state:
(A) has firearm proficiency requirements for peace officers; and
(B) fully recognizes the right of peace officers commissioned in
this state to carry weapons in the other state.
(10) "Recreational vehicle park" means a tract of land that has
rental spaces for two or more recreational vehicles, as defined by
Section 522.004, Transportation Code.
(11) "Residential land" means real property improved by a
dwelling and zoned for or otherwise authorized for single-family or
TEXAS CONCEALED HANDGUN LAWS PC §30.05. 33
(c) *[as repealed by Acts Effective September 1,2009, 81st Leg., R.S., HB 2609 §4.]
(d) An offense under this section is:
(1) a Class B misdemeanor, except as provided by Subdivisions
(2) and (3);
(2) a Class C misdemeanor, except as provided by Subdivision
(3), if the offense is committed:
(A) on agricultural land and within 100 feet of the boundary of
the land; or
(B) on residential land and within 100 feet of a protected freshwater
(3) a Class A misdemeanor if:
(A) the offense is committed:
(i) in a habitation or a shelter center;
(ii) on a Superfund site; or
(iii) on or in a critical infrastructure facility; or
(B) the person carries a deadly weapon during the commission
of the offense.
(e) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that the actor at
the time of the offense was:
(1) a firefighter or emergency medical services personnel, as
defined by Section 773.003, Health and Safety Code, acting in the
lawful discharge of an official duty under exigent circumstances;
(2) a person who was:
(A) an employee or agent of:
(i) an electric utility, as defined by Section 31.002, Utilities
(ii) a telecommunications provider, as defined by Section
51.002, Utilities Code;
(iii) a video service provider or cable service provider, as defined
by Section 66.002, Utilities Code;
(iv) a gas utility, as defined by Section 101.003 or 121.001,
Utilities Code; or
(v) a pipeline used for the transportation or sale of oil, gas, or
related products; and
(B) performing a duty within the scope of that employment or
(3) a person who was:
(A) employed by or acting as agent for an entity that had, or
that the person reasonably believed had, effective consent or authorization
provided by law to enter the property; and
(B) performing a duty within the scope of that employment or
(f) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) the basis on which entry on the property or land or in the
building was forbidden is that entry with a handgun was forbidden; and
(2) the person was carrying a concealed handgun and a license
issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, to carry
a concealed handgun of the same category the person was carrying.
(g) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that the actor
entered a railroad switching yard or any part of a railroad switching
January 3rd, 2012 10:10 AM
In a way you didn't give enough information to properly answer. If you are on an isolated rural place with many acres you
may need to use extreme caution. A ranch hand near here recently discovered a gang of MJ growers doing their thing
on an isolated part of their ranch/and neighbor's ranch. He just stumbled across it, saw a guy with an AR guarding, and got out of
there to call the authorities.
For outside your house, dogs, more dogs, game cameras.
If someone attempts to come in, let them breach the door or window and stop them with lead.
Meanwhile, since you've called the police, make certain that there are written reports about ALL the prior incidents because these will back you up if you do need to stop someone with lethal force.
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January 3rd, 2012 12:03 PM
Welcome from Delaware! No need to add anything further than what has already been offered.
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January 3rd, 2012 01:15 PM
If your car is equipped with a remote, press the panic button to get the lights flashing and horn beeping. Remote car start is another way to spook spooks. Keep your cell phone charged. Practice aiming your shotgun at points of entry from positions behind defensive cover. Only shoot after a threat is positively identified and the background is safe. Welcome to the forum.
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January 3rd, 2012 03:08 PM
All good advice above. Only thing I might add is get an AR as well. Depending on distances, a shotgun w/ 00 buck may not have enough range. An AR could reach out plenty far to protect before they even get close to the house. And as stated several times, practice, practice, practice! You are in a free state, use your freedom to protect yourself and your loved one(s)!
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